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Old 06-08-2007, 10:29 AM
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M57 - Wide Field

Presenting, Lord of the Rings...

The planetary nebula M57 (Ring Nebula), is located in the constellation Lyra and situated between the stars Beta and Gamma Lyrae. The nebula is formed by the dying stages of a star. When a star’s core fusion diminishes, the forces of gravity take hold changing the star’s structure. Gravity causes the external structure to collapse inwards, causing the internal structure to become condensed and extremely hot. The intense build up of pressure causes the external shell to explode and is forced away. The stellar wind causes the surrounding gases to ionize producing vibrant colours. The Ring Nebula is about 2,000 light-years away and has a diameter of about one light-year.

About this image;
Total exposure time is 1 hour – (R:20;V:20;B:20) using five 240sec subs per channel and is a RRVB composite. I titled this image as wide field as it does include a small vista of stars surrounding the nebula to deliver an aesthetic feel, however in reality it is far from it - the image was captured at a focal length of 3572mm. This is my first attempt at RVB imaging, which I found reasonably challenging. Having performed a G2V colour balance through the photometry filters, it took a while to get the balance right... and guess what?... Its still not right! Conventional RGB weightings are much easier as there is quite a lot of channel “cross-over” with the RVB. After all, they aren't really design for this style of imaging (compared to collecting scientific data). If you’re looking for a challenge, give RVB imaging a try.

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Other than the troubles mentioned above regarding the colour weightings, after the lights were calibrated they were still riddled with serious noise. That data raw data was rather good coming from an NABG chip - no blooms and the like. I don’t think the scaling of the calibration files worked well. The image still contained a lot of noise after median combining. I was tempted to chase the remaining problems with the healing tool, but for what its worth I didn’t bother. This is not one of my “front page/top shelf” images. I did this to challenge my skills and do something different than RGB for a change. Other than this, the processing of the image was rather straight forward. I used the R channel as a luminance and pushed it through LR deconvolve – 2 iterations. This was then added to the RVB as a luminance. The luminance was stretched with levels and curves. The RVB with levels and shadow/highlights tool. I used a high-pass layer mask to selectively improve contrast in specific areas of interest.

While I'd normally say "Enjoy", I don't think there is much to enjoy about this image. Perhaps I'm being a little too harsh, but I'm not overly thrilled by this image despite the underlying technical challenges I faced. I thought I'd share it anyway. So to this end... I hope you "partially" enjoy!
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:17 AM
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At 3572mm what else can you do, but enjoy it. I do think you are being overly harsh, it is a great shot, and one I would be proud of.
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Old 06-08-2007, 12:39 PM
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Very nice indeed Jase, I think you have done a great job with it so don't undersell it. The colours are very vibrant and I enjoyed it very much.

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Some of the stars look a bit "pinkish", and some seem to not be quite aligned with their colour channels (red on the left, cyan/blue on the right) but I enjoyed the nebula itself very much.
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Nice, I will try to get this one tonight!
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Old 06-08-2007, 06:19 PM
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nice ring image jase , been trying to hunt this down myself from the uk but my light pollution is causing observing havok !!
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Old 06-08-2007, 09:44 PM
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Wow, top work Jase, enjoy?, ofcause, hard narrow field is always worthy,. The image is excellent, suits enhanced creative colour treatment. In fact the guiding is good enough to consider a FL increasing device. This is a hard one, the deconvolute etc has worked well, even unfairly zooming in reveals a pleasing experience.

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Old 07-08-2007, 09:05 AM
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Not a bad ring at all Jase!...
and at such a long focal length the seeing would really play havoc with this sort of target!!
very nice colors and composition.
Just curious does the V in your RVB image stand for violet?
I havn`t heard of this before.
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Old 07-08-2007, 11:38 AM
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At 3572mm what else can you do, but enjoy it. I do think you are being overly harsh, it is a great shot, and one I would be proud of.
Thanks Gary. 3572mm is getting up there for deep sky work. Its fine for those solar system imagers as you get to grab the best frames while the seeing is good. No such luck in the DSO world especially when the object is dim and you need to take long exposures. Conditions and image sampling are critical. The FLI Dream Machine contains a back-illuminated NABG chip so it collects photons pretty quick – this helps.

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Very nice indeed Jase, I think you have done a great job with it so don't undersell it. The colours are very vibrant and I enjoyed it very much.
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Cheers Ric.

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Some of the stars look a bit "pinkish", and some seem to not be quite aligned with their colour channels (red on the left, cyan/blue on the right) but I enjoyed the nebula itself very much.
Thanks Mike. Yes, not sure what happen with the registration process in Registar. I even tried manually overlaying the image in MaximDL to stretch, skew and rotate the RVB frames manually and it still didn’t register well. If Registar couldn’t do it, then I had no chance. Indeed colour balance is off (as I indicated). I need more experience imaging through photometric filters to make things work.


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Nice, I will try to get this one tonight!
Thank you Dr. Nick. Give it a go.


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nice ring image jase , been trying to hunt this down myself from the uk but my light pollution is causing observing havok !!
Cheers Little Col. The object is best suited to northern hemisphere imagers so I hope the skies clear for you to target this object.

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Wow, top work Jase, enjoy?, ofcause, hard narrow field is always worthy,. The image is excellent, suits enhanced creative colour treatment. In fact the guiding is good enough to consider a FL increasing device. This is a hard one, the deconvolute etc has worked well, even unfairly zooming in reveals a pleasing experience.
Cheers
Thanks Fred. Enjoy I did, but perhaps I was expecting something different hence expectations weren’t meet (yadda yadda) - RVB is different to RGB. I’m embarking on your narrow field domain. Not sure if I’m ready for it yet. The ability to deliver great images when the jetstream is going berserk always says something… other than “wide field wooze”. A bit of deconv was in order. 1.38 arcsec/pixel is tight. The Dream Machine has 24u square pixels so sampling was ideal for the focal length.


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Not a bad ring at all Jase!...
and at such a long focal length the seeing would really play havoc with this sort of target!!
very nice colors and composition.
Just curious does the V in your RVB image stand for violet?
I havn`t heard of this before.
cheers Gary
Cheers Gary. The filters are UBVRI photometric filters (the Bessell set). They’re predominately used for measuring star types etc (scientific data collection). Only a few imagers use them for astrophotography purposes. You can see the filter characteristics in the attachment section. V is simply mapped to green channel. You will not the filter cross talk and wavelength centering isn't identical to RGB, thus makes it a little more complex to balance. All good fun though.

Thanks all for the comments.
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