Damn hot here

[Exfso (Peter)]

We cracked over 42 today, same for tomorrow. My Holman weather station peaked at 48deg. It is situated next to my Sat dish..

[Atmos (Colin)]

If it wasn't so humid I wouldn't care about the heat as much, just so sticky!
Afraid to go outside tonight though, the mozzies are bad enough when it's cooler, I aware they'd bleed me dry if I went out there now!

[Dealy (Kev)]

Yep, I'm hearing ya.

Forecast for our future home an hour NW of Newcastle is Thurs 36°, Fri 43°, Sat 45°, Sun 46°, before a cool change.

Hands up if you're sick of summer

[Exfso (Peter)]

Holy Cow Kev, I thought we had it bad, that is horrendous...

[Dealy (Kev)]

It gets worse. I just checked the Weather Channel:

Fri 43°, Sat 46°, Sun 47°, then plummets to 30° on Monday.

I think I'll move to Tassie instead.

[luka]

I think I'll move to Tassie instead.

You can also come to Perth. We have not really seen much summer this year. 20°C tomorrow.

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by Dealy

It gets worse. I just checked the Weather Channel:

Fri 43°, Sat 46°, Sun 47°, then plummets to 30° on Monday.

I think I'll move to Tassie instead.

Here in Hobart, 26 and rain, headed for 17 on Sunday. Give me 3 months and we'll be topping out at 10 and looking for snow. I reckon we have had a couple of days over 30 this Summer, most a balmy 20 +/- a couple. Thought I saw a sprinkle of snow on a local peak a week or so back... Sure felt like it!

Problem with moving here is the lack of work, moronic government and bogan plagues Otherwise, perfect!

[Atmos (Colin)]

I'm thinking I might move to Atacama, Chile. Top of 27° and a low of 9°, low humidity and AMAZING seeing

[glend (Glen)]

Originally Posted by el_draco

Here in Hobart, 26 and rain, headed for 17 on Sunday.

Problem with moving here is the lack of work, moronic government and bogan plagues Otherwise, perfect!

And the RAIN!!

[glend (Glen)]

Originally Posted by Exfso

We cracked over 42 today, same for tomorrow. My Holman weather station peaked at 48deg. It is situated next to my Sat dish..

And now you have more power problems ( aka rolling blackouts) to contend with. I can just imagine how folks would feel getting home from work and finding they could not turn on their air conditioners.

[AussieTrooper (Ben)]

No mosquitos in the Atacama either.

My family actually came very close to moving to that area. My father’s company was one of the bidders for a copper mine job inland from Antofagasta, and we all would have relocated. How different life would have been…

[drylander (Peter)]

Harden up guys its summer in Sth Aus. just think how hard we had it with no a/c in the 50's and early 60's. Loving this weather its what makes Australia great
Pete

[el_draco (Rom)]

Originally Posted by Atmos

I'm thinking I might move to Atacama, Chile. Top of 27° and a low of 9°, low humidity and AMAZING seeing

Hows your Spanish amigo? Eppa Eppa aundera aundera... Eeeha!

[Exfso (Peter)]

And now you have more power problems ( aka rolling blackouts) to contend with. I can just imagine how folks would feel getting home from work and finding they could not turn on their air conditioners.

Yeah this state is stuffed, most expensive electricity in the world and most unreliable supply. The govt is broke as well, not a good scenario

[AndrewJ]

and most unreliable supply.

I know its still early, but i have been hearing on the news this arvo that people in SA knew that there was going to be an evening load problem due to "predicted" low winds, and wanted to fire up Pelican point as a backup just in case, but AEMO, ( the managers of "the grid" ) refused to authorise it???
Be interesting if that is true.
ie reliability comes down to a cost equation run by some wallahs in a building somewhere in another state.
Essential services should never have been privatised.

Andrew

[gary]

The Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) Market Notices are indicating
today potential shortfalls of power tomorrow (Friday) for Queensland and
NSW.

AEMO's weather forecast service provider has issued temperature forecasts
"equal to or greater than the Generation Capacity Reference Temperature".

Blackouts may occur in NSW and Qld on Friday afternoon as there is a
forecast shortfall in power generation capacity as everyone switches on
airconditioning.

Originally Posted by Sydney Morning Herald, Petter Hannam

AEMO also predicted electricity demand in [NSW] to peak at 14,276 megawatts on Friday afternoon.

"That would be very close to the all-time record" power demand of 14,649 MW, Paul McArdle, chief executive of Global-Roam, an energy consultancy.

Similarly in South Australia, AEMO, has issued another Market Notice
and are "seeking a market response".

Notices here -
https://www.aemo.com.au/Market-Notices

Article in SMH here -
http://www.smh.com.au/business/energ...08-gu8rv5.html

[glend (Glen)]

Just saw a story that AEMO asked for more power from the suppliers five hours before the predicted demand surge and the suppliers sat back and did nothing. It is clear they have no authority to direct but can only ask. Suppliers will wait until they can get maximum price for their power. It cost money to fire up another turbine and have it online for a predicted peak, clearly the Pelican Point operators were trying to minimise costs.
I wonder what the response would be if some old folks died because their AC would not work. I smell a Class Action law suit brewing.
There is another news report this afternoon about mismanagement in power supply, with the suppliers bascially " gaming" the system to increase their profits.

[gary]

In the United States in the early 90's, a character by the name of
Kenneth Lay was one of those who lead the push for the US to create
an electricity energy market.

Lay was the CEO of the now infamous Enron.

In 2000 and 2001, what became known as the "California energy crises"
resulted in California having a shortage of electricity and blackouts
caused by an artificial shortage illegally orchestrated by Enron.

Energy traders intentionally took capacity offline for "maintenance" on
days of peak demand to raise the market price.

The deregulation of California's energy market made it possible and the
blackouts affected millions of people and businesses.

Many will remember the 'Enron scandal' that resulted in Enron going
bankrupt and Kenneth Lay being indicted by a grand jury and being
found guilty of securities fraud.

Lay died of a heart attack whilst on vacation awaiting sentencing.

Many Electrical Engineers had warned that the power grid had been
engineered with the primary goal of reliability and warned it had
not been designed to become a dynamic platform for market traders.

[Shiraz (Ray)]

Originally Posted by gary

The Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) Market Notices are indicating
today potential shortfalls of power tomorrow (Friday) for Queensland and
NSW.

AEMO's weather forecast service provider has issued temperature forecasts
"equal to or greater than the Generation Capacity Reference Temperature".

Blackouts may occur in NSW and Qld on Friday afternoon as there is a
forecast shortfall in power generation capacity as everyone switches on
airconditioning.




Similarly in South Australia, AEMO, has issued another Market Notice
and are "seeking a market response".

Notices here -
https://www.aemo.com.au/Market-Notices

Article in SMH here -
http://www.smh.com.au/business/energ...08-gu8rv5.html

Originally Posted by gary

In the United States in the early 90's, a character by the name of
Kenneth Lay was one of those who lead the push for the US to create
an electricity energy market.

Lay was the CEO of the now infamous Enron.

In 2000 and 2001, what became known as the "California energy crises"
resulted in California having a shortage of electricity and blackouts
caused by an artificial shortage illegally orchestrated by Enron.

Energy traders intentionally took capacity offline for "maintenance" on
days of peak demand to raise the market price.

The deregulation of California's energy market made it possible and the
blackouts affected millions of people and businesses.

Many will remember the 'Enron scandal' that resulted in Enron going
bankrupt and Kenneth Lay being indicted by a grand jury and being
found guilty of securities fraud.

Lay died of a heart attack whilst on vacation awaiting sentencing.

Many Electrical Engineers had warned that the power grid had been
engineered with the primary goal of reliability and warned it had
not been designed to become a dynamic platform for market traders.

good info Gary. Private industry has no incentive to stabilise the supplies when they can make a killing out of selling spot power at huge prices. Now the coal industry is using their press and Canberra mouthpieces to blame the outages on the lack of coal power - forget that we have an over-abundance of gas generators sitting idle and that it's all down to market manipulation. They speak with forked tongues. Weatherill has finally started to talk about re-nationalising the whole failed experiment - either full nationalisation, or the state buys a gas generator to put it on line when needed to keep the bas@#$@s honest. can't come soon enough.

meantime, it sure is hot.

[Exfso (Peter)]

Ray, the trouble is you cannot trust anything the SA premier says, he has about as much backbone as a wet sponge!! I reckon he cant wait to get voted out next erection, it is all too much for him to handle.