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Old 18-10-2006, 10:01 PM
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New mount for my dob

Well I finally got around to finishing the new mount for my dob which I must say gives me much better motions in both directions and is much more stable.

Some features:
  • Lead weight at base of tube to lower the centre of gravity. This also gives more mass and stability, especially in windy conditions.
  • Levelling ring that the base sits in to allow setting circles to work properly.
  • 12" side bearings with laminate surface on large teflon pads set 70 degrees apart. Any wider apart and I found the resistance increasing, any closer and it became unstable and too easily moved.
  • Az movement is held by a lazy susan bearing and three supersliders, this combination gives a real smooth motion that is not too easily moved by the wind, etc.
  • Cradle can be easily opened to allow the tube to be finely balanced if necessary. I haven't found this necessary with the 12" bearings, changing eyepieces makes no difference and I don't have to use springs or magnets any more.
I am now working on making the bearings easily removable so I can substitute smaller ones for use with the split ring mount I am working on.

This mount has really made a vast difference to observing with tracking at high power (400x plus on the moon) smooth and easy.
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Old 18-10-2006, 10:17 PM
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Hi Rob,

For what its worth, it looks very impressive. What wood did u use and what is the overall weight ?
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Old 18-10-2006, 10:34 PM
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Rob, that's a very nice looking mount you've made. It would also appear very functional. Is this your first attempt or have you made others?
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Old 18-10-2006, 10:45 PM
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Thumbs up

Excellent workmanship, something to be proud of. Love the quick release mech for the OTA. Everything a good dob job should be; simple, effective and... well done, very well done Family heirloom material.
Got any plans for an EQ platform for it?
If you have plans and pics of how you built it please consider posting them and authoring a 'how-to' on the project. From a selfish PoV I would learn a lot, and suspect others would too.

Time for a poll maybe?

Show and tell?
Don't show and tell?
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Old 18-10-2006, 11:17 PM
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hey Rob

that is sensational

were you out at Linden last Saturday?if so I'm sorry i missed seeing this work of art
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Old 19-10-2006, 12:53 AM
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Rob, absolutely stunning job there. I really like your cradle idea, and the bearings are much better than those plastic things on the GSO's.
I am eagerly awaiting your Split ring mount that you have mentioned before. How would you like to make 2?

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Old 19-10-2006, 06:20 AM
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That looks stunning, Rob! A how-to would be awesome..

Very functional, looks great.

Well done!
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Old 19-10-2006, 06:27 AM
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Fantastic Rob . What type of laminate did you use?

Cheers,
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Old 19-10-2006, 10:30 AM
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Thanks for the good feedback folks.

Now to answer some questions:
  • Norm, The base is simply made of ply from Bunnings and MrPlyandWood. The base and bottom disk of the mount are two layers of 12mm ply glued together to make the bottom as rigid as possible. The sides are 18mm ply, the bearings are double thickness 12mm. The top and bottom rings of the cradle are double 12mm and the side panels are single 12mm ply. The actual weight of the mount is surprisingly light considering the amount of wood that is in it but remember its made of softwood ply, I don't think the extra expense for hardwood ply is worth it.
  • Jase, This as about MK III and probably the final dob mount for this scope.
  • Lost in space, I have an equatorial platform that I had set up then tried to improve it but got side tracked (its still in pieces). I plan to work on a collapsible split ring mount instead as I think it will be simplier and far more stable.
  • Seeker, Yes I was there but you didn't miss anything, solid clouds from about 9pm but I did get to test the setting circles, they work really well.
  • Netwolf, I will probably end up making quite a few split ring mounts as the project evolves like this mount did but they are a step at a time events and usually pulled to pieces then rebuilt. Not quite the answer you were looking for I suspect
  • Mike, I can do a How To but will have to pull the mount apart for actual sizes so I will probably do a general overview of the thoughts so people can apply it to any size scope.
  • Ian, I just used a rough finish laminate offcut I got from a friend who is a kitchen supplier, got lucky on that one as he gets most of his panels pre laminated now. Nothing special but boy it works!

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Old 19-10-2006, 10:33 AM
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Wow! It looks like a weapon, Rob!
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Old 19-10-2006, 01:02 PM
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Very impressive Rob!!!...clean, neat, looks cool and very functional...now I'm jealous!!
Cheers!!!
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Old 19-10-2006, 01:02 PM
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Rob, dont throw anything away, well you can throw it in my direction if you like.

Does anyone know any companies that would cut up pices based on a design drawings? Then it would just be a matter of putting it together.
This would be good for thos of us that are not so handy with the tools.

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Old 19-10-2006, 01:17 PM
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There is nothing in that base that a router and saw cannot produce. Very simple bits involved so don't sell yourself short in anything. You just have to be a good scrounger for things like laminate and teflon
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Old 19-10-2006, 05:11 PM
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Absolutely brilliant.
A unique design that will draw envious onlookers at every star party.
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Old 21-10-2006, 02:47 PM
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Hi Rob, love your handy work on the new mount, very impressive.
Just wondering how you rate the angle finder/inclinometer that is on top of your tube in the photos; are you happy enough with the accuracy?
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Old 21-10-2006, 03:30 PM
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Looks excellent Rob !

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This mount has really made a vast difference to observing with tracking at high power (400x plus on the moon) smooth and easy.
That what its all about and where your off the shelf dob without mods most badly falls down.
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Old 21-10-2006, 03:43 PM
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looks great rob!

got a question for ya tho. the nuts onthe inside of the alt bearing, are they welded in or something? did you remove them? and did you repaint over the spot where they were?

thnx
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Old 21-10-2006, 03:54 PM
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Holy mackerel that looks very impressive , skillfully made mate congrats
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Old 21-10-2006, 05:29 PM
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Next lot of answers:
  • IsDon - The inclinometer is OK and with great care I can usually get an object within the field of view of my 30mm BUT I am working on a new improved version that should be ready in a few weeks.
  • Geoff - You are surely right, the tracking on the GS mounts is very ordinary but you have to remember how much you paid and most of that went into the scope not the mount.
  • Dave - I removed the original alt bearing bolts and covered the holes with the black hundred mile and hour tape you see above the cradle.
I am working on the how to and will probably submit it as a seperate thread a step at a time as I get them done.

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Old 21-10-2006, 11:17 PM
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Wow! Rob that's a work of art. Looking forward to the how-to. Thanks for posting.
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