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05-11-2015, 12:03 PM
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Hi Greg
Nice set but you have some horizontal banding artifacts going on here on both images. Difficult to see on the large and original but when you look at the thumbnails on your Pbase page its quite marked.
I think PI has a canon banding removal script/process if you want to have a fiddle
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05-11-2015, 12:42 PM
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Really nice, Greg! I really like the LMC shot , very good!
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05-11-2015, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by DJT
Hi Greg
Nice set but you have some horizontal banding artifacts going on here on both images. Difficult to see on the large and original but when you look at the thumbnails on your Pbase page its quite marked.
I think PI has a canon banding removal script/process if you want to have a fiddle
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I noticed a stripe on an earlier image. I am not sure its an artifact though as this camera does not have a banding issue. I have never seen it do it regularly. Its possible but I think its more likely some either airglow or bushfire smoke in bands or perhaps a bit of thin cloud. Its not really regular or evenly spaced. I'll check the original RAWs again. I know some Canon cameras can have that issue but this is a Sony camera and the sensor is very very artifact free.
I checked the RAWs and there is definitely no banding. The little rivers of red may be air glow. I see it at my dark site a lot. I have done time lapses and you can see it dancing around like rivers in the sky. I think that may've been the weekend when that strong aurora was happening down south. Perhaps more airglow than normal. Its often green but sometimes its reddish.
I checked it out more. The slight banding (which is a bit clearer on the Eta Carina shot but its uneven. not level, varying widths, doesn't go full width of the image) is real not an artifact. I tried PI DBE, PS Carboni remove banding action - no effect. The Canon banding is even, regular and really is pattern noise of some type. This is irregular and uneven and is an air current of red airglow.
By the way what is the PI Canon banding removal process in PI called? I had a look and couldn't see one easily (PI uses big words).
Thanks for your response though. It made me check it out more as I wondered about the earlier image if it had banding.
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Originally Posted by Rod771
Really nice, Greg! I really like the LMC shot , very good!
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Thanks Rod.
Greg.
Last edited by gregbradley; 05-11-2015 at 01:33 PM.
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05-11-2015, 01:52 PM
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These are particularly attractive images Greg. Very nice composition. The capture and setting of the LMC image has worked very well.
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05-11-2015, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryderscope
These are particularly attractive images Greg. Very nice composition. The capture and setting of the LMC image has worked very well.
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Thanks Rodney. The LMC is several images stacked and then I layered in a the tree from a single image as it was blurred from stacking the tracked images. I used lighten blending mode and a hide all mask then brushed in the area of the tree.
Greg.
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05-11-2015, 03:17 PM
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Very nice, Greg! I can't decide which I prefer. The LMC just hanging there like a jellyfish is very cool.
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05-11-2015, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
By the way what is the PI Canon banding removal process in PI called? I had a look and couldn't see one easily (PI uses big words).Greg.
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"Canon Banding Reduction" Located in: Script / Utilities / Canon Banding Reduction.
I've used it a few times, Greg. Including my latest Helix post. The default setting of 1.0 seems to be a little too strong for my sensor, so I generally lower it to something around 0.3 or 0.4.
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05-11-2015, 08:02 PM
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Very nice, Greg! I can't decide which I prefer. The LMC just hanging there like a jellyfish is very cool.
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Thanks Rick. I plan to do another series next trip. I now have a wired intervalometer and also wifi remote control. It was cold when I took these - it was just after that big snow fall in NSW and there was still snow around.
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Originally Posted by Rod771
"Canon Banding Reduction" Located in: Script / Utilities / Canon Banding Reduction.
I've used it a few times, Greg. Including my latest Helix post. The default setting of 1.0 seems to be a little too strong for my sensor, so I generally lower it to something around 0.3 or 0.4.
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Cheers Rod. I'll check it out.
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05-11-2015, 08:58 PM
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Lots of nice sharp stars again Greg  I like the LMC above the trees, different, looks cool.
Mike
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06-11-2015, 02:58 PM
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I like the cross - looks beautiful against the carpet of stars. That lens seems to be pretty good!
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06-11-2015, 03:29 PM
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Lots of nice sharp stars again Greg  I like the LMC above the trees, different, looks cool.
Mike
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Cheers Mike.
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Originally Posted by Shiraz
I like the cross - looks beautiful against the carpet of stars. That lens seems to be pretty good!
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Thanks Ray.
Yes it is an excellent lens.
Greg.
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09-11-2015, 08:51 PM
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Nice Gerg, so many stars! I love the trees along the bottom of the LMC.
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09-11-2015, 09:10 PM
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Both very nice - I particularly like the LMC image.
Cheers Steve
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09-11-2015, 10:18 PM
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Nice Gerg, so many stars! I love the trees along the bottom of the LMC.
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Thanks Erik. I knew I would get an image one day with that dead tree in it!
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Originally Posted by Phoenix
Both very nice - I particularly like the LMC image.
Cheers Steve
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Thanks Steve.
Greg.
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10-11-2015, 12:19 PM
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Nice chunk of southern milky way Greg, I really appreciate these wide field images of the sky, more please
Clear skies
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10-11-2015, 04:12 PM
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I agree with Marco. This size wide field looks great. I like the subtle detailing. Maybe just a little too blue I think. I could be wrong but I think there is more yellow stars in this region. Still a very nice image in any case.
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10-11-2015, 08:18 PM
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mmm, excellent detail, but the background is so high grey and brown dominate. A bit of level/curving bought out hidden colour and more contrast made it pop.
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10-11-2015, 08:43 PM
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Nice chunk of southern milky way Greg, I really appreciate these wide field images of the sky, more please
Clear skies
Marco
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Thanks Marco. Its handy when its not really viable to set up all the gear.
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Originally Posted by Paul Haese
I agree with Marco. This size wide field looks great. I like the subtle detailing. Maybe just a little too blue I think. I could be wrong but I think there is more yellow stars in this region. Still a very nice image in any case. 
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Thanks Paul.
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
mmm, excellent detail, but the background is so high grey and brown dominate. A bit of level/curving bought out hidden colour and more contrast made it pop.
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Thanks Fred. I'll check it out.
Greg.
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10-11-2015, 09:15 PM
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Lovely Greg! That Southern Cross area shot is very nice.
Stay tuned for some of my own widefield shots taken with the A7s, I finally worked out a convenient way to mount the cam inverted beneath the scope after all this time, loving the 85mm and 200mm f/l's
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