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Old 28-09-2006, 07:39 PM
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Ive run out of ideas!!!

I would like to cover the holes in the black plastic where the spider vanes bolt through, but cant think of a neat way to do this. Can anybody give me some inspiration as to how to go about this? The daylight shining through the spider vane ends can be easily seen in the 2nd photo.


I have thought about gluing some black foam around the holes, but I doubt I could get it to look very good. Anyone have any suggestions???
Any comments/criticism is welcome !!
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Old 28-09-2006, 07:45 PM
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I probably would have laminated another piece of plywood over the top of the exiting one with on the 4 secondary spaceer pole screws showing. Stained the same as the existing one so it doesnt look different. The plywood ony need be abot 6mm thick. Using the 4 pole screws to hold it together so if you need to seperate it, it will come off via those screws.
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Old 28-09-2006, 08:29 PM
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That looks pretty tidy as it is ?

Is that a sparrowhawk you have there ?.. I've been thinking of grabbing one sometime soon.. lots o birds nest near home and i wouldn't mind haveing a portable scope I can take out and use my eyepieces with in the daylight...Are you happy with It?
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Old 28-09-2006, 08:30 PM
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Sorry Astroman, but I want to cover the gaps where the spider vanes meet
the black plastic, any stray light easily gets through here as I had to cut them a fair bit oversize.

I am also after some ideas/photos of how to attach a stalk for my Argo Navis computer to have it at waist height on a stalk.

BTW did you send that envelope yet?
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Old 28-09-2006, 08:45 PM
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That looks pretty tidy as it is ?

Is that a sparrowhawk you have there ?.. I've been thinking of grabbing one sometime soon.. lots o birds nest near home and i wouldn't mind haveing a portable scope I can take out and use my eyepieces with in the daylight...Are you happy with It?
Yes it is a sparrowhawk. It is easily the best finder I have used hands down. You can even use most Ep's in it and use it as a scope on its own. The helical focuser is lovely to use also. The optics are very sharp!!

Here is some extensive reports about the sparrowhawk:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea...ev=#Post809262
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:07 PM
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Perhaps some thin black foam sheet on the outside between the plastic and the aluminium poles that the spider mounts to ?

P.S. The scope is looking very schmick
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:11 PM
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The holes look like they're round, how about rubber grommets??
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:29 PM
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The holes look like they're round, how about rubber grommets??
Thankyou!! That is a great idea. If I can get the right size then it will look very professional. Which store would likely have the biggest range of grommets now?? Bunnings, Clark rubber ???
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:31 PM
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Sorry Mark, didnt realise you wanted all the screws covered. In all reality its just a cosmetic thing, and the scope looks a million bucks already.

I will be sending the envelope tomorrow, havent had time till tonight to get it.
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:37 PM
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Sorry Mark, didnt realise you wanted all the screws covered. In all reality its just a cosmetic thing, and the scope looks a million bucks already.

I will be sending the envelope tomorrow, havent had time till tonight to get it.
Its not really a cosmetic thing because the stray light is causing some flaring in my EP's. Im trying to cover the gaps in the kydex plastic, not cover the srewheads.
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:41 PM
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That scope looks great - you deserve to be very proud of yourself. Well done!

If the holes are troubling you, why don't you just swap out the kydex with a new piece with the holes drilled tighter using the old one as a template?
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Old 28-09-2006, 09:50 PM
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Its not really a cosmetic thing because the stray light is causing some flaring in my EP's.
Surely ingress of light from those tiny holes at those angles couldn't get anywhere near the eyepiece in sufficient quantity to flare?!?

I assume you are using a shroud to shield the primary and an UTA front baffle if you have a big light problem...
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Old 28-09-2006, 10:01 PM
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I would like to cover the holes in the black plastic where the spider vanes bolt through, but cant think of a neat way to do this. Can anybody give me some inspiration as to how to go about this? The daylight shining through the spider vane ends can be easily seen in the 2nd photo.


I have thought about gluing some black foam around the holes, but I doubt I could get it to look very good. Anyone have any suggestions???
Any comments/criticism is welcome !!
What about taking the spider and focuser out and flocking the inside of the mirror cage but cutting the holes for the spider veins smaller so they just fit through with a tight fit.
I used velvet on the inside of my cage and made a small slit for the bolts to go through. It worked perfectly.
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Old 28-09-2006, 11:45 PM
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Surely ingress of light from those tiny holes at those angles couldn't get anywhere near the eyepiece in sufficient quantity to flare?!?

I assume you are using a shroud to shield the primary and an UTA front baffle if you have a big light problem...
Havnt got a shroud or UTA baffle as of yet........so probably justs compounds my problem with flaring.
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Old 28-09-2006, 11:48 PM
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What about taking the spider and focuser out and flocking the inside of the mirror cage but cutting the holes for the spider veins smaller so they just fit through with a tight fit.
I used velvet on the inside of my cage and made a small slit for the bolts to go through. It worked perfectly.
Another good idea.................I may go with this one.

Could you possibly post a closeup photo of how your dsc stalk is mounted on the rocker box??? Making my Argo Navis stalk is next on my TO-DO list.
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Old 29-09-2006, 06:24 AM
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Sorry Mark, I went back and reread your post, I first had read it as the top of the secondary, not sure where that came from. Now that I reread it, I would go with Ed's idea of flocking and smaller holes too.
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Old 29-09-2006, 06:52 AM
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Another good idea.................I may go with this one.

Could you possibly post a closeup photo of how your dsc stalk is mounted on the rocker box??? Making my Argo Navis stalk is next on my TO-DO list.
No problem.
These are a couple I took about year ago...if they don't show you what you want I'll take some more.
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Old 29-09-2006, 07:07 AM
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And here's mine with internal cabling.

(PS, make a shroud )
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Old 29-09-2006, 11:32 AM
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I have seen this style of dsc stalk mount in a lot of photos. What really scares me is the thought of somebody running into the dsc pole in the dark and snapping off those mount blocks. The lever moment must be huge with those blocks so closely spaced.
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Old 29-09-2006, 11:49 AM
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The wooden blocks that I use are for the laptop stand but the dsc stalk is on a steel bracket. If someone bumps into the laptop stand the telescope moves or shakes but the blocks stay firmly attached to the rocker box.
Its pretty hard to pull the blocks of when they are screwed and glued with Araldite.
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