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Old 22-03-2014, 07:13 PM
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Which Refractor to Use

So with the Mars opposition maximising on 14th April should I setup the 130 f/12 or 160 f/7 (both are APO's). Will the extra 30mm provide significant image scale increase or am I better off going with the extra focal length?

Would the 160 f/7 plus a Baader FFC be a better setup?
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Old 22-03-2014, 07:28 PM
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Slightly off topic but this just caught my eye as in the current issue of Oz S&T states on page 54 that the conjunction will occur on the 14th while on page 64 it is stated to occur on the 9th!

So - can anyone provide some clarification on the correct date so we don't miss it!
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Old 22-03-2014, 07:32 PM
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Hang on - this might be my own mistake as the 'opposition' is listed for the 9th and the 'conjunction' on the 14th
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Old 22-03-2014, 09:11 PM
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I have looked at Mars both through an Astro Physics 7" f9 Starfire and 6" f12 Super Planetary on the same night and although the contrast in the f12 was better, the extra light from the 7" made some finer detail just that little bit easier to see as the image was just that little bit brighter.

However it was long ago and I cannot recall the eyepieces used but I do remember an assortment of early Naglers and Clave Plossls.

If I were you I would be trying both and although Mars is at opposition for one specific moment it's apparent diameter will not change too much a few days either side of this date. If I really did have to choose I'd go with the bigger 'scope and use a Barlow to get more image scale or a 3-6mm Nagler Zoom would be perfect.

Mars is at opposition on April 8, 2014, 21.03 UT, (9th 7:03 AEST). Source; MICA (Willmann Bell).

Note Mars in in Conjunction with the Moon on April 14, 2014.

Opposition: The position of an astronomical object (in particular, a Superior Planet) when it is opposite the Sun in the sky and so reaches culmination (Transit) at midnight. When an outer planet is at opposition, the Sun, Earth and planet lie in a straight line, with the Earth between Sun and planet; the planet is then at its closest to the Earth, and best placed for observation. (See further note below).

Conjunction: The alignment or close alignment of two or more astronomical bodies; thus, for example, if the planet Mars and the Moon lie very close together in the sky, Mars is said to be in conjunction with the Moon.

Source; A Dictionary of Space and the Universe by Iain Nicholson (Arrow)

Note regarding closest approach: Dues to the highly elliptcal nature of the orbit of Mars and the way it coincides with the Earth's own slightly elliptical orbit, closest approach of Mars this year is on April 14 at 92.39 million km. Mars will be just over 15 arc seconds in diameter. Mars can get to over 25 ar seconds in diameter during most favourable oppositions when the orbits of Mars and Earth are at their closest at opposition. Any favourable opposition of Mars around 23 arc seconds is spectacular visually as Mars is considerably larger in the eyepiece.

See also http://www.alpo-astronomy.org/jbeish/2014_MARS.htm for a lot of good info.

Last edited by astro744; 23-03-2014 at 08:31 AM. Reason: Added definition of opposition and conjunction
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Old 22-03-2014, 10:45 PM
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Hans, this is screaming out for a side by side comparison. But it will surely show that the 160 reveals more detail. If there can be only one, then the 160 it should be.
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