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Old 11-11-2013, 12:15 AM
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Finally guiding, NGC253

This started more as an equipment test of my new .7x focal reducer, OAG and Lodestar CCD. Also just to learn how to set up guiding with PHD. I was pleased when I finally got PHD calibrated and guiding. There was a bit of this D'OH! Once the settings were right and everything settled down, I decided to see how long of a single sub I could get before the stars looked ugly. Got to 10 minutes (didnt test anything longer than that), and started to do a run of subs. The guiding wasn't perfect and the seeing was average and yes, the 60da's pixels are way too small for this focal lenght but im quite happy with this as a start.

I've got to say, this was a lot more challenging than slapping the Hyperstar on and snapping away, although I don't mean the difference in focal length but more of the difficulties in focus and framing, nothing comes through to the Live view screen at F7. I had to switch to looping short exposures to focus.

So here's my first guided image: NGC 253
2 x hours of 12 x 10min subs, Canan 60da @ ISO 800,
.7x focal reducer - FL 1960, C11 HD on CGEM DX
Guided with OAG/Lodestar.

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This was my second deep sky image of a galaxy, I've decided to include my first for a bit of fun M83 imaged with the Hyperstar (only 10 mins exp), you might have to squint

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Old 11-11-2013, 12:19 AM
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Well, you must have been quite relieved to see that image form on your processing screen Rod, nice job. Wishing you many more, hopefully more streamlined, nights ahead

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Old 11-11-2013, 01:09 AM
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Old 11-11-2013, 02:42 AM
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It is always nice when you finally get everything running. Nice images!
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Old 11-11-2013, 07:12 AM
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Nice stuff, Rod. Good start.

Can't you use Backyard EOS to focus? It's what I do - the FWHM tool is great. As you say, a loop of 5s jpgs at ISO 6400 will give you a good base. Pick a smallish star at those settings, whack the Backyard EOS zoom box on it, and adjust the focus till the FWHM is as small as possible.

Still, looks like you got focus pretty well however you did it :-)
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Old 11-11-2013, 09:05 AM
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It was worth the effort to sort it out. That's a nice looking Sculptor image.

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Old 11-11-2013, 12:02 PM
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Nothing more rewarding in this wonderful hobby than when everything works.

I know the feeling, after having guider issues for over a year (and all stupid remnant dll related!)
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Old 11-11-2013, 01:00 PM
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Well, you must have been quite relieved to see that image form on your processing screen Rod, nice job. Wishing you many more, hopefully more streamlined, nights ahead

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Thanks Mike, yes I was very please when the first exposure displayed on the lap top and enjoyed processing too. Now I just wish I had a permanent set up. Cheers

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Nice shots.
Thanks Carl

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It is always nice when you finally get everything running. Nice images!
Cheers Steve, All I need now is consistency.

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Nice stuff, Rod. Good start.

Can't you use Backyard EOS to focus? It's what I do - the FWHM tool is great. As you say, a loop of 5s jpgs at ISO 6400 will give you a good base. Pick a smallish star at those settings, whack the Backyard EOS zoom box on it, and adjust the focus till the FWHM is as small as possible.

Still, looks like you got focus pretty well however you did it :-)
Thanks John,

I did use BYE for focusing, I'm just used to focusing with the live view enabled and seeing the FWHM changes in "real time", which is possible at F2 with Hyperstar. I just found it harder to frame, and focus took a little longer but I was happy where it ended up.

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It was worth the effort to sort it out. That's a nice looking Sculptor image.

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Thanks Greg, I was a little concerned about the image scale but after seeing you result with SX694 at 2940mm. I think the 60Da (.45 arc sec/pixel at 1960mm) will do for awhile.

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Nothing more rewarding in this wonderful hobby than when everything works.

I know the feeling, after having guider issues for over a year (and all stupid remnant dll related!)
Yes, sometimes you need to uninstall manually before upgrading

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Old 11-11-2013, 08:18 PM
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All looks promising Rod!

Some good detail coming through, can't wait to see some wide fields from the hyperstar.

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Old 11-11-2013, 10:25 PM
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Nice 253 your setup looks like a goer.

I feel your pain with guiding issues. Mine where mostly the monkey at the keyboard but still painful to track down.

Cross fingers for some clear weather.

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Old 12-11-2013, 08:03 AM
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Excellent. Now the sky's the limit.
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Old 13-11-2013, 09:18 AM
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All looks promising Rod!

Some good detail coming through, can't wait to see some wide fields from the hyperstar.

Cheers,

Justin.
Thanks Justin! Yes, Im planning on attacking Pleiades, M42 (again) and the Horsehaed/Flame with the hyperstar soon.

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Nice 253 your setup looks like a goer.

I feel your pain with guiding issues. Mine where mostly the monkey at the keyboard but still painful to track down.

Cross fingers for some clear weather.

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Thanks Justin! I have no doubt that my issues were operator orientated

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Thanks Marc, it certainly is, cheers.
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Old 16-11-2013, 09:31 AM
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Very good galaxy photo Rod.

Good luck.

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Old 16-11-2013, 05:18 PM
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Thanks Ross

Overcast now , I'm looking forward to getting out again when its clear.
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Old 16-11-2013, 10:08 PM
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Nice work Rod! Did you use phd 2.x? It's a beta but works fine... http://adgsoftware.com/phd2/
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Old 16-11-2013, 11:27 PM
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Nice work Rod! Did you use phd 2.x? It's a beta but works fine... http://adgsoftware.com/phd2/

Thanks Elio

I used the original version of PHD. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out
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