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Old 26-10-2013, 12:21 AM
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Lagoon in Infrared.

Reasonably happy with that one. Seeing wasn't crash hot last couple of days but it still turned out ok. Bottom panel is a little blurrier. So 2 panels of 12x10min each shot with my 8" newt and QHY9 while testing the new focuser system and different coma correctors. Getting there with the field. Guiding could be better. I was guiding through the finder and will setup the OAG next once I have the right spacing for the MPCC.

I have a bigger one here.
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Old 26-10-2013, 01:50 AM
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Really like this shot marc the nebulosity blends nicely with the stars.

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Old 26-10-2013, 02:41 AM
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Awesome shot Marc. I love the dark lanes, and the contrast in this one.
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Old 26-10-2013, 09:10 AM
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M8? I don't think I've seen you try this one before?

Interesting to see it in IR Marc. Seems to be emphasising the dark dust areas nicely.
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Old 26-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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Nice shot Marc.

The dust lanes should be less obvious when compared to visible images.
NIR wavelengths are much longer than the particulate size of the obscuring matter and scattering is less. The dust lanes should therefore be less opaque in NIR.

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Old 26-10-2013, 04:26 PM
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Really like this shot marc the nebulosity blends nicely with the stars.

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Thanks Jo. Glad you like it.

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Awesome shot Marc. I love the dark lanes, and the contrast
in this one.
Thanks a lot Rex.

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M8? I don't think I've seen you try this one before?

Interesting to see it in IR Marc. Seems to be emphasising the dark dust areas nicely.
Not in IR.

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Nice shot Marc.

The dust lanes should be less obvious when compared to visible images.
NIR wavelengths are much longer than the particulate size of the obscuring matter and scattering is less. The dust lanes should therefore be less opaque in NIR.

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Thanks Steven. There's still a fair bit of dark stuff in that area, here in a wider context. Top is a little more contrasty. It was higher in the sky. I also still have little issues doing flats with that system. Work in progress.
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Old 26-10-2013, 07:16 PM
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Very nice contrast ballancing Marc, looking real good on this area, sweet image
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Old 27-10-2013, 01:59 PM
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Very nice contrast ballancing Marc, looking real good on this area, sweet image
Thanks a lot Bob.
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Old 27-10-2013, 03:15 PM
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Ok, bit more education learned re IR then.
BUT - its still an interesting view, and there's dark dusty lane thingies visible in there for sure
(back off man, I'm a scientist!)
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Another interesting and unusual view, thanks Marc!
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Great looking photo Marc.

I like the way it brings out the dark lanes.

Well done and looking forward to more IR photos.

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Old 27-10-2013, 05:02 PM
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Ok, bit more education learned re IR then.
BUT - its still an interesting view, and there's dark dusty lane thingies visible in there for sure
(back off man, I'm a scientist!)
A mate of mine did a shot slightly wider FOV with an FSQ106 and it matches mine so I reckon it's about right.

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Another interesting and unusual view, thanks Marc!
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Great looking photo Marc.

I like the way it brings out the dark lanes.

Well done and looking forward to more IR photos.

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Thanks Ross. Nearly there with the new rig. Tiny bit more spacing with the MPCC and I'm on the money I reckon. I'm also trying to source 300mm of 8" CF tube to do a solid dewshield. I'm having some issues with doing flats with my EL sheet. Stray light. I think it's too close to the secondary and light leaks into the focuser barrel. That secondary is huge.

Then finally will need to insert the OAG in the imaging train. At this image scale I just can't get away with the lazy guider guiding anymore.
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Ok, bit more education learned re IR then.
BUT - its still an interesting view, and there's dark dusty lane thingies visible in there for sure
(back off man, I'm a scientist!)]
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A mate of mine did a shot slightly wider FOV with an FSQ106 and it matches mine so I reckon it's about right.
Rob and Marc

I was comparing the dust detail in the Lagoon Nebula.
Maybe the differences are not as apparent in the surrounding parts of the image.

The difference in NGC 7793 is quite striking.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~sjastro...ison_Stars.jpg

On a different topic I think a wide field image of the Coal Sack in NIR might be very interesting.
I purchased an NIR filter specifically to image RCW71 an emission nebula which is heavily obscured by the Coal Sack. I was expecting considerable improvement over a visible light image as NIR should have cut through the Coal Sack, instead it was a lot worse.
It could mean that RCW71 isn't very bright in NIR or the Coal Sack is lit up in NIR resulting in loss of contrast of RCW71. (Something like the lack of contrast in the NIR image of NGC7793).

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Interesting images Steven. I am genuinely interested in what IR offers, and learning more about the theory.

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I concur - never seen Monsieur Aragnou image La Nébuleuse de Lagune before. No, not ever.... not in IR for sure

So, will the IR be combined with LRGB-Ha/OIII/SII?
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Then finally will need to insert the OAG in the imaging train. At this image scale I just can't get away with the lazy guider guiding anymore.
Best thing I ever did for the big AG12 too...took me long enough With a Newt the chances of diff flex is very high, the OAG remedies this nicely

Interesting Lagoon BTW too

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IR is a particular interest of mine and this is another good interesting shot of an area that shows up well in it. If anyone is interested here's a wide angle and narrow angle shot I did of the Lagoon using Astrodon IR filters and a STL6303 camera:

http://members.pcug.org.au/~stevec/m8_IR_STL11K_FSQ.htm

http://members.pcug.org.au/~stevec/m8_IR_STL11K_RC.htm

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I concur - never seen Monsieur Aragnou image La Nébuleuse de Lagune before. No, not ever.... not in IR for sure

So, will the IR be combined with LRGB-Ha/OIII/SII?
I tried IR, LUM/IR, LUM in the past and it seems to work. Later on I'd like to get the full set of IR filters but they're costly.

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Best thing I ever did for the big AG12 too...took me long enough With a Newt the chances of diff flex is very high, the OAG remedies this nicely

Interesting Lagoon BTW too

Mike
Yeah the challenge is to fit it within the corrector spacing.

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IR is a particular interest of mine and this is another good interesting shot of an area that shows up well in it. If anyone is interested here's a wide angle and narrow angle shot I did of the Lagoon using Astrodon IR filters and a STL6303 camera:

http://members.pcug.org.au/~stevec/m8_IR_STL11K_FSQ.htm

http://members.pcug.org.au/~stevec/m8_IR_STL11K_RC.htm

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That looks very cool in colour Steve. Nice.
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