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Old 30-04-2013, 02:23 AM
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Motorbikes

My son has done his 12months on a 500 suzuki and wants a real bike. He's 22 and already has a football injury to the knee which is limiting his choices due to riding positions. We went looking late last week and the new 2013 kwaka Z800 seems to have a riding position that suits.

He's buggered off to Thailand with his mates for a couple of weeks since then but I've now found that the 2013 Z1000 is lighter and physically smaller for only about $2000 more. The Z800 is 85Kwankles the Z1000 is 110 plus it's about 30Kgs lighter, but ride position is basically the same. This is supposed to be a commuter.

I'm not sure if I should tell him or not, I'd like to outlive him.
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Old 30-04-2013, 06:42 AM
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Old 30-04-2013, 10:20 AM
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z1000 is too much bike for a novice
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Old 30-04-2013, 11:23 AM
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Good idea, I'll just keep my trap shut.
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Old 30-04-2013, 01:19 PM
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I'd suggest getting a mid range BMW.

The powerband is a lot more relaxed and they are way more reliable.

I guarantee you won't be up for a engine rebuild at 100,000 kilometres.
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Old 30-04-2013, 01:40 PM
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If your talking about a flat twin Ric, the cheapest is double the z800 price.
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Old 30-04-2013, 02:21 PM
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Hi Robin

The RRP for the Z800 is around $13,000 plus rego & CTP

For that price you can get a 2nd hand BMW in the 800cc to 1200cc range, registered and with less than 20,000 km on the clock.

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Old 30-04-2013, 02:26 PM
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I've lined one up for $12,099 drive away. The bike must be under 18months old for finance.

Besides, he told me a bmw is an old persons bike
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Old 30-04-2013, 04:24 PM
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Old persons bike indeed!

I've been riding Beemers since I was 17

Check this model out, my brother in law rides one and he has a permanent grin from ear to ear.

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/i...html&notrack=1

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Old 30-04-2013, 05:26 PM
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I've lined one up for $12,099 drive away. The bike must be under 18months old for finance.

Besides, he told me a bmw is an old persons bike
I have a BMW R1150R that makes a kick in the arse under 100HP at the rear wheel, pulls 0-100 klms in about 3 seconds, will leave black lines on the road and is still comfortable enough to ride all day. It is an old man's bike and even has a clock in the cockpit.
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The only mods are breathing in and out and a mild flash of the ECU to make things happen at touring speeds and bring it all into the 3000 RPM range BTW it does paw the air from 1st to 5th but rear tyres are just too expensive.
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Old 30-04-2013, 05:47 PM
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Old persons bike indeed!

I've been riding Beemers since I was 17

Check this model out, my brother in law rides one and he has a permanent grin from ear to ear.

http://www.bmw-motorrad.com/com/en/i...html&notrack=1

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This link doesn't work for me Ric.
And you got me looking you ratbag, I'm off to test ride an old K100RS tomorrow
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Old 30-04-2013, 07:57 PM
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This link doesn't work for me Ric.
And you got me looking you ratbag, I'm off to test ride an old K100RS tomorrow
Welcome (back?) to the club, Robin!

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Sure is good advice , I have a Kawasaki z750R and its 116hp and its a monster when she comes on song , still scares me and I have been riding for 30 odd years ..
Its more the other traffic on the road you have to be aware of and I think a young 22 year old just starting out the z1000 is way to much bike .
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Old 30-04-2013, 08:30 PM
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Welcome (back?) to the club, Robin!

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Yes back, but it's been a while.
I rode it already and bought it, couldn't resist
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I like this thread .... now your talking Motorbikes.
If I may ....BMW ... an old man's bike ...OK... then I must be considered old .... smooth as they are...shaft drive ( what more could you want )...a set of panniers on the back ....a great tourer.
I'd have blokes coming in buying ' O Ring ' chains all the time...........give me shaft drive any day.

I have a favourite ...the MotoGuzzi 500 Monza ..90' degree Twin Cylinder...shaft driven .....haven't seen 1 of these in a long time.

At one time decades ago ...( for 2 years ) ...I was Spare Parts Manager for a Kawasaki Motorcycle Dealership ...BMW/Harley Davidson Dealership was across the road.
We both did quite well selling our brand .

We were selling the GPZ900R's...GPZ1000's ....GPZ750R Turbos and the pocket rocket known as the KR250.... also road/trail bikes.
Kawasaki was known as the ' Green Machine ' at Bathurst.

But of all the bikes we sold in those days....where are they now....BUT....look around and you can see some day's ... an early BMW still going on the road .


Flash....the old man

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I have a bmw r1100s that just clocked over 100,000kms, only old man thing on it is heated grips, the Staintunes on it sound horrrnnnn
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:37 AM
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Nice looking unit Robin, you'll have a lot of fun with that.

Sorry about the link, I was talking about BMW's S 1000 RR. (see picture)

My toys are a 1985 K75c with 475,000 km on the clock and still as reliable as the day I bought it and a 1998 R1200c with 104,000 km on the clock.

Enjoy your new ride.
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:43 AM
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I have a bmw r1100s that just clocked over 100,000kms, only old man thing on it is heated grips, the Staintunes on it sound horrrnnnn
Hi Nik

You can't be the sound of Staintunes eh. I have them on both my bikes.

Nothing wrong with heated grips, I ride 80km to work and back every day and in Winter it can be down to -7ºc in the mornings.

I love my heated grips.
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I love my heated grips.
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