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Old 03-09-2009, 08:32 PM
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Believing in an "afterlife" is a comfort for some. Especially when faced with their own mortality.
Who are we to take this consolation away from them?
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:34 PM
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Near death 'experiences' are exactly what they purport to be. Your brain is about to shut down and it valiantly tries to make sense of the faltering inputs. I have never seen a a truly independantly corroborated 'near death experience'. There are many operating theaters in the world that have 'hidden objects' near the ceiling. So far no near death person has identified any one of these objects under any sort of controlled conditions..

I again emphasise controlled conditions.

No point in making up a plausible story after the event.

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Bert there is alot of debate by respected scientists on all sides about excatly what NDEs are. So your simple assertion at the begining of your post saying exactly what they are doesnt help.

NDEs are alot more then identifying medical instruments in a operating theater. There are lots of pages on the net about it. Its so interesting. Could I suggest you look in on one of those. Also there is a stream of people who tell of their experiances on YouTube. You may be satisfied that most are not credible but it may be worth watching what they have to say with an open mind.

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Old 03-09-2009, 08:38 PM
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Fred,I am going to stick to writing about astronomy, which you after reading your copy of Australian Sky and Telescope, you may find some interest in the subject and maybe post something on the subject
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Believing in an "afterlife" is a comfort for some. Especially when faced with their own mortality.
Who are we to take this consolation away from them?
I think its also just as 'comforting' for rational people to believe there isn't one.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:52 PM
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C'mon Ron. You post quite a lot of non astronomy stuff, too...



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Old 03-09-2009, 08:54 PM
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I think its also just as 'comforting' for rational people to believe there isn't one.
Whatever gets you through the night eh.
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Old 03-09-2009, 08:56 PM
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Whatever gets you through the night eh.
You would know
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:01 PM
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You would know
Unfortunately yes.
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Old 04-09-2009, 12:40 AM
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In the end it all boils down to this...when you die, then you'll know...won't you

In which case either one of two things will happen...1) Nothing and it won't matter or be worth worrying about, or, 2) You'll suddenly realise that you're wrong...about a great many things.

We're all in for a surprise, either way.
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Old 04-09-2009, 06:23 AM
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Dave, I think you'll find that both Judaism and Islam, do, too.

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No, neither of those are close to Christianism. I had this argument with the boss at work a few weeks ago and proved it to them by researching it.

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Old 04-09-2009, 08:28 AM
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No, neither of those are close to Christianism. I had this argument with the boss at work a few weeks ago and proved it to them by researching it.

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Actually, David, the Talmud (Torah) and the Old Testament are exactly the same and Islam has been heavily influenced by Judaic, Christian and tribal beliefs.

Christianity is partially derived from old Judaism, and so is Islam.
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