End of the world 2012

[bloodhound31]

Originally Posted by Baron von Richthofen

I have found three sources that claim that the end of the world will happen in December 2012 and it all depends on interpretation of what was written
1 Mayan Indians
2 Nostradamus
3 the original old bible

Thanks for that Baron . I will go back to my original question however, I will be more specific....

Mayan Indians: Text? Book?
Bible: Chapter? Verse?

Just interested and want to check it out for myself any 2012 references in any physical texts. I get these questions all the time and want to answer back with more than, "I heard", "Some tabloid mag or doco), or "somewhere in the bible."

Hey guys and gals, if I am not allowed to express my views on creation here (and I am not according to the rules and that's fine, it's not my forum.) then please have some respect and stop referring to my belief as fairy tales and poo-poo, etcetera et-al.

I and many other Christians are happy for anyone to find their own way and are not in the habit of telling you your beliefs are stupid. There are extremists and offenders on all sides of the fence. We are all just people. Some good, some rotten. We believe what we believe, can't we just be friends and leave it at that? I don't take offence, why do you? I quite like everyone here, regardless of their belief. You are all wonderful people in lots of ways.

I realize this is general chat, but this is an astronomy forum, not a boxing arena. Whaddya say? Shall we get back on topic then have a beer?

Peace, love and mungbeans baby!!

Baz.

[TrevorW]

Baz I'm not a believer however I do respect your right to be

although the bible has mutiple references too the end of the world i don't believe it specifically mentions a date

likewise the reference to the Mayan text only refers to the end of their calender

As too Nostradamus, well the less said (text is open too any interpretation)

In all seriousness I predict it ain't going to happen

(at least I got a 50/50 chance of being right)

[Satchmo]

Originally Posted by Astro78

If you were ever going to think of far reaching ideas through drugs, the mushrooms might be at the top of your list btw.

This book is a great read on that subject..

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Gods-Orig.../dp/0553371304

[PCH (Paul)]

Originally Posted by Rod66

Sheesh, this is bad. My calendar on my desk only goes up to December 2009. Will the end come earlier for me? ;P

If there is one thing human beings are renowned for its soaking up predictions of doom. Even now in the 21st century our religous beliefs are still fundamentally entwined in screwballs from thousands of years ago. Its a pity that the media thrives on delivering populist and paranoid propaganda rather than investigative journalism that identifies fact from fiction.

1 - Mayan Indians - their calendar ends - thats ALL it says.
2 - Nostradamus - give me one proven prediction that doesn't have 50 different meanings and interpretations. Or rather just give me one proven prediction..
3 - Dont recall seeing 2012 in the original old bible anywhere..

Take a look at this website

http://www.whathappensin2012.com/200...caust-in-2012/

its an absoulte classic at trying to associate bible statements with 2012, yet offers no real link and then goes on to say how the "bible code" proves the theory. So someone has taken the english translation of a bible that has already been transalted probably a few times before and linked some words together and come up with this garbage.

That my friends is the true doom we face - so much rubbish being fed into the minds of people willing to believe such things..

Rod

Agreed. I think it was Winnie Churchill who declared that ... "no-one ever lost money gambling on people's intelligence (meaning .. lack of intelligence)"

In any case, there have been so many translations of the bible and other texts, that it is probably quite impossible to deduce the precise meaning of much of the original text.

[mithrandir (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by PCH

Agreed. I think it was Winnie Churchill who declared that ... "no-one ever lost money gambling on people's intelligence (meaning .. lack of intelligence)"

Did you actually mean:
"No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
H. L. Mencken

also:
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
Robert A. Heinlein

[PCH (Paul)]

Originally Posted by mithrandir

Did you actually mean:
"No one in this world has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people."
H. L. Mencken

also:
"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
Robert A. Heinlein

I guess I did. Thanks for pointing that out. I knew I'd heard it somewhere I must be one of the thickoes it's referring to

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by mithrandir

"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."
Robert A. Heinlein

He has some great quotes in the intermission of
"Time Enough for Love"

[spearo (Frank)]

Doesn't Earth have a couple of billion years or so to go until either Andromeda sweeps through our galaxy or our Sun goes Red Giant and engulfs us?

Of course we may not be here anymore, and probably wont look too much like we do now by then anyways...

Everything changes, we will too.
frank

[Astro78]

Originally Posted by spearo

Doesn't Earth have a couple of billion years or so to go until either Andromeda sweeps through our galaxy or our Sun goes Red Giant and engulfs us?

And don't forgot Wolf Rayet 104 (AKA death star), according to a talk by Dr. Peter Tuthill on Saturday night, it's facing straight on and could be ready to go bananas in 100,000 years. Although only 1% chance of actually generating a GRB. Sure hope the calculator wasn't playing up when he ran those numbers

[renormalised (Carl)]

Whaddya say? Shall we get back on topic then have a beer? http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....ies/cheers.gif

Forget about the topic....just have a beer!!!!

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by Astro78

And don't forgot Wolf Rayet 104 (AKA death star), according to a talk by Dr. Peter Tuthill on Saturday night, it's facing straight on and could be ready to go bananas in 100,000 years. Although only 1% chance of actually generating a GRB. Sure hope the calculator wasn't playing up when he ran those numbers

By then, they'll just raise shields and the planet will be protected, anyway

[Astro78]

Originally Posted by Satchmo

This book is a great read on that subject..

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Gods-Orig.../dp/0553371304

But officer:

"Claiming that psilocybin in the hominid diet would have enhanced eyesight, sexual enjoyment, and language ability and would have thereby placed the mushroom-eaters in the front lines of genetic evolution"

That does look interesting

[JimmyH155]

The End of days, December 21st 2012. My brother-in-law wrote the book called "The end of time" Look up on his web site. Google in "Adrian Gilbert" and go to his books. It is all to do with sun spot cycles within sunspot cycles, and interpretation of the lid of Palenqe
Fascinating reading

[Baron von Richthofen (Vaclav)]

The end of the world
Bring it on as long as I have a good seat and some of those Mushrooms

[bloodhound31]

Originally Posted by renormalised

Forget about the topic....just have a beer!!!!

I'll drink to that Carl!

[stephenb (Stephen)]

I challenged anyone who is convinced that the world will end in December 20th 2012, to sign a legal document to hand over ALL their possessions to me (car, house, boat, money etc.) on the 21st of December 2012. If there are correct, then no lose to either of us. I guarantee you that not one of the "believers" will take up my offer!!

Any serious takers here?

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by glenluceskies

I challenged anyone who is convinced that the world will end in December 20th 2012, to sign a legal document to hand over ALL their possessions to me (car, house, boat, money etc.) on the 21st of December 2012. If there are correct, then no lose to either of us. I guarantee you that not one of the "believers" will take up my offer!!

Any serious takers here?

I wouldn't bet on that.
They did it for Jim Jones, the idiots that believed in Hale Bopp did it as did Marge and Homer Simpson.
The list goes on and on.
So long as there are people so soft in the head that they need someone else to think for them, there'll always be money to be made by the gurus that lead them.

[stephenb (Stephen)]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

I wouldn't bet on that.
They did it for Jim Jones, the idiots that believed in Hale Bopp did it as did Marge and Homer Simpson.
The list goes on and on.
So long as there are people so soft in the head that they need someone else to think for them, there'll always be money to be made by the gurus that lead them.

Yeah, I know, J. Wishful thinking but I'm open to offers

..money to be made by a guru to lead them??? mmmm....

[Barrykgerdes]

I don't know about the end of the world but there is a great restaurant at the End of the Universe

Barry

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes

I don't know about the end of the world but there is a great restaurant at the End of the Universe

Barry

They do seafood I believe.