I have found three sources that claim that the end of the world will happen in December 2012 and it all depends on interpretation of what was written 1 Mayan Indians 2 Nostradamus 3 the original old bible
Renormalised dealt with 1.
wrt Nostradamus, the man wrote in riddles and like all fortune tellers was a bull poo artist. So scrub his "predictions" , they are all poppycock.
wrt the bible , it's a fairytail cover to cover written and then rewritten and changed over the last few thousand years , knicking myths and legends from the Babylonians and other more ancient civilisations. So scrub any predictions that some people think are in the bible about the end of the world.
btw , anyone who has any curiousity can check on the long line of end of the world predictions by this and that bible based cult over the last 18 hundred years and see there have been a long line of end world predictions , all of which came and went , and nothing came of them .
And there is no invisible brown dwarf or monster comet heading our way either so don't go there either.
Sheesh, this is bad. My calendar on my desk only goes up to December 2009. Will the end come earlier for me? ;P
If there is one thing human beings are renowned for its soaking up predictions of doom. Even now in the 21st century our religous beliefs are still fundamentally entwined in screwballs from thousands of years ago. Its a pity that the media thrives on delivering populist and paranoid propaganda rather than investigative journalism that identifies fact from fiction.
1 - Mayan Indians - their calendar ends - thats ALL it says.
2 - Nostradamus - give me one proven prediction that doesn't have 50 different meanings and interpretations. Or rather just give me one proven prediction..
3 - Dont recall seeing 2012 in the original old bible anywhere..
its an absoulte classic at trying to associate bible statements with 2012, yet offers no real link and then goes on to say how the "bible code" proves the theory. So someone has taken the english translation of a bible that has already been transalted probably a few times before and linked some words together and come up with this garbage.
That my friends is the true doom we face - so much rubbish being fed into the minds of people willing to believe such things..
wrt the bible , it's a fairytail cover to cover written and then rewritten and changed over the last few thousand years , knicking myths and legends from the Babylonians and other more ancient civilisations.
Oh Ian Robinson, please realise many Christians do indeed take the bible literally and of course many don't. Either way it's a book that represents the faith of around a Billion people. Take it easy please.
That's when the Mayan calendar runs out. Mind you they wrote it about 5000 years ago. It's not like they actually predicted the end of the world, more that they just got tired of writing...!
That's not really true. Every mayan province had it's own calender, none of them really were the same. Some continue past December 2012.
There are many myths about the Mayans - and they are just that - myths.
Oh Ian Robinson, please realise many Christians do indeed take the bible literally and of course many don't. Either way it's a book that represents the faith of around a Billion people. Take it easy please.
This is what I don't understand - why to the rights of a particular religion, override the rights of someone else to speak their mind? What happens if part of my religious belief is being able to speak my mind freely, without fear of prosecution? Is that other particular religion then imposing on my religion? Methinks proponents of a particular religion need to grow thicker skins and be more tolerant of others, and other religions.
Paul - before you argue with me, history will *show* that this particular other religion has always interfered with other religions and attempted to destroy any competing religion, in any way, shape or form. It's a highly intolerant religion, more so than nearly every other competing religion that currently exists.
We're forever being asked to respect the beliefs of the faithful (which in other words means we're being ordered to never question those beliefs.) Yet those of highly sensitive faith seldom respect the beliefs or opinions of anybody else.
IMO Monty Python's "Life of Brian"
is the last real recorded history of Christianity
Those who don't agree & believe ARE highly emotional & sensitive
and should also respect my faith
I've got no problems whatsoever with people voicing their opinions and in fact am a firm supporter of such.
I would have made very similar comment if it were directed at the Koran, the Torah, the Tipitaka and many others, I assure you that.
However there may be a difference between voicing an opinion and intentionally mocking others beliefs? Not that Ian did that. He may have been unaware of the fact many Christians do indeed take the bible literally, hence my comments. Perhaps they are the minority, I'm not sure but it shouldn't matter.
So for explaining this only and asking Ian to take it easy, I feel I prompted a few more negative comments about some peoples faith. Nice fellas, nice
Do you believe in the end of the world or should I say the end of man kind in December 2012, my self I think not it will be just another day and it makes me think what were they smoking, the Mayan Indians were smoking cocaine but the rest that had predicted the end of man kind in December 2012 what were they smoking (I want some)
There are plenty of artifacts depicting the Mayans and 'mushrooms', indicating they did use them in some way. If this pic is anything to go by, I'd put a bet on them using them for their physcadelic qualities.
To divert slightly but interesting (i hope), I believe the Spanish used to provide Aztec slaves with cocoa leaves to get them to work. Without this they would rather die at the hands of their captures. A very mild affect compared to what we do to refine that drug today.
If you were ever going to think of far reaching ideas through drugs, the mushrooms might be at the top of your list btw.
There are plenty of artifacts depicting the Mayans and 'mushrooms', indicating they did use them in some way. If this pic is anything to go by, I'd put a bet on them using them for their physcadelic qualities.
To divert slightly but interesting (i hope), I believe the Spanish used to provide Aztec slaves with cocoa leaves to get them to work. Without this they would rather die at the hands of their captures. A very mild affect compared to what we do to refine that drug today.
If you were ever going to think of far reaching ideas through drugs, the mushrooms might be at the top of your list btw.
The Spanish have a lot to answer for, Spanish Inquisition , The rape and pillaging of the Americares, introduction with violence of religion into the Americares, genocide of natives of the Americares
I have found three sources that claim that the end of the world will happen in December 2012 and it all depends on interpretation of what was written 1 Mayan Indians 2 Nostradamus 3 the original old bible
Yeah! I heard the same thing.
The version I heard was on Foxtel, Discovery (or Nat Geog) a month or two ago.
I actually posted a comment about it right here.
Funny thing was, shortly after I heard (totally unrelated) a Financial Analyst predicting another Global Financial Crisis about that time too. This one to be big enough to make the last one look like a picnic. Oddly enough, he said this would lead to Global Meltdown of the World Economy, and mass starvation, rebellions, anarchy, basically the end of civilisation as we know it.
Then to top it all off! Ruddy introduces his ETS. And that is surely going to finish off any survivors !
The Mayans were pretty exact.
Notice the date. 20th of the 12th, 2012. !
Oh, and then there is the well respected scientists (name escapes me but I think I posted this here too) who are predicting the next ice age will be in progress, you guessed it... by 2012.
And here we are trying to stop Global Warming, by then we will be looking for all the ways we can kick it off again!!
The Mayan date relates to end of the "current age". Astrologically speaking. I think Christianity links the "end of current system of things" with the ending of one of these ages.
I don't care if it is true or not, but I intend taking some serious holidays (within Aust) before then, just in case. I plan on retiring from full time employment in 2011.
If they are all wrong, well, thats what the Age Pension is for!
If they are right, oh well, no loss. We were/are all going to sign off sooner or later anyway. Just the queues will be longer I guess?
However, I don't think any of it relates to the end of our lucky planet. I predict it will survive and generate a new life form to share with.
The mods are there to back up the TOS.
Please don't take it personally.
That's cool Jeanette, I can live with the mods doing their job - it's what they're meant to do.
Astro78 - I'm personally well aware that many people take the bible literally. Each to their own.
Anyways, back on topic - doomsday has been a feature of some religions for a long while. Book of revelations is the main one that I can think of for now. I'm not sure if the Holy Koran, or Tanakh mention it or not. Individuals have also done it, because they like the attention I personally believe.
I personally believe that apocalyptic events are a part of nature - as an example, asteroids, comets hitting the Earth (planet killers), etc.
Please can someone confirm that it does end in 2012 if so then everythings open season now $30000 loan won't have to pay back and have the use of that gear for a least the next 2 years brand new sports car and trophy wife holiday in the Bbahamas max out my credit cards and mortgage take up smoking again
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Now that is a well considered bucket list !
Ha!
How about those crazy discout stores who are offering no deposit no interest no repayments until 2013 !!!
If they only knew !!!!
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Do you believe in the end of the world or should I say the end of man kind in December 2012, my self I think not it will be just another day and it makes me think what were they smoking, the Mayan Indians were smoking cocaine but the rest that had predicted the end of man kind in December 2012 what were they smoking (I want some)
