Need to know about UFO’s!! - Page 3

AlexN · #41 30-11-2008, 03:44 PM

Styleman33 - Fantastic analogy indeed..

Greg, I get that same feeling sometimes... How happy I am to be living in these, very exciting times in human development, where we are always discovering new things, and making incredible advancements in science, and technology.. However sad that I will only get to see a finite amount of human history. I fear that the years after my time may be even more exciting than the time I have, And I sure dont want to miss out.

Now back to building my Live-forever-inator...

Alex.

Clarry (Clayton) · #42 30-11-2008, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by joe_smith

If you look at the recored history of man it goes way, way further back than that.

Maybe so, but I reckon that since man started flying, the frequency of UFO sightings has accelerated. Perhaps because we now know how to defy gravity, our bogey men take on even greater powers.

It's weird that aliens are intelligent enough to cross galaxies at phenomenal speeds and then make 90 deg turns at these same speeds with no effect on their vessels occupants, yet their medical science is somewhat lacking. How many cows must they abduct before they know how they work?

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jungle11 (Greg) · #43 30-11-2008, 05:46 PM

Sorry, the cow reminded me of the spaceship trying to lift homer on the simpsons..

Glenhuon (Bill) · #44 30-11-2008, 06:34 PM

Just been reading the news before coming on here and this thread reminded me of "Pray that there's intelligent life, somewhere out in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth"

If there are Warp capable civilisations out there, they are not going to talk to us any time soon. ( Mostly Harmless, or as the Vulcans are reputed to say, "Too Primitive to contact")

Bill

AstralTraveller (David) · #45 01-12-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Clarry

Maybe so, but I reckon that since man started flying, the frequency of UFO sightings has accelerated......

That would be one factor. The realisation of the size of the universe (external galaxies), our own ability to get into space and some clown reading War of the Worlds on radio

would be others. I remember reading that the rise in doomsday cults was due to the great meteor shower of 1844.

joe_smith · #46 01-12-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Clarry

Maybe so, but I reckon that since man started flying, the frequency of UFO sightings has accelerated. Perhaps because we now know how to defy gravity, our bogey men take on even greater powers.

It's weird that aliens are intelligent enough to cross galaxies at phenomenal speeds and then make 90 deg turns at these same speeds with no effect on their vessels occupants, yet their medical science is somewhat lacking. How many cows must they abduct before they know how they work?

There is no evidence they/them/its come from galaxies far far away they might be a phenomenon in our own solar system and they have been here longer than us. Something more than just random events have led humans to where we are today, If not we should still be swinging in the trees with the rest of the natural creatures on our planet.

ving (David) · #47 01-12-2008, 03:36 PM

...the truth is out there!

I am an alien.

xelasnave · #48 01-12-2008, 04:13 PM

I have wondered if Jupiter is simply a more advanced Earth with all the pollution that such advancement would generate

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So under all the clouds there may be a race battling with extreme climate change and self generated polution

....there we go another cult opportunity

..mmm I think brown uniforms as this group probably wont wash

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It is so wonderful that we live in an age where such matters can be contemplated

.. life in general ..I have already lost favor with the polluted Jupiter idea

..... I have no doubt that life will prove abundant, not beings better than us of course as we are obviously number one in the Universe

, and we may find it (life) within our solar system in regions not yet thought posible to manage life.

I feel life may be more interested in energy than any other aspect and maybe even water is a secondary consideration....which would open the books considerably

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So we dont want any criters out there that could get into our crops here on Earth so again lets build some battle stars

..armed with canon and crop dusting gear

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ANYWAYS... we expect any visitors to be of a size that we could see them easily...

we figure that any alien will be almost as big as us and unattractive in comparrison... however I would think that an advanced species...such that could space travell, and can engineer their folks to run for 1000 years before termination would have genetically engineered themselves to be real small... and that makes sence you see for a planet that is running out of room... imagine if we were only the size of ants the price of real estate would be a lot less..and presumably having a command greater than our in the nano teck area small makes sence

....and so my money is on the fact that they will be very small and their craft very small

..less materials less energy etc... so would we see them

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Their craft may be so small we would need a microscope to see them

...mmm new places to look and another cult I suspect

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alex

alex

jungle11 (Greg) · #49 01-12-2008, 07:20 PM

Microscopic aliens....that would scare the socks off germaphobics everywhere, wondering if aliens are crawling up their gazoots while they sleep - forget about the probes!

You really are set apon this death star idea, aren't you alex?

I always say how much i hate guns n stuff, but everytime an F111 flies over our house (they train out this way) I get a shiver - man they're cool!

xelasnave · #50 01-12-2008, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jungle11

Microscopic aliens....that would scare the socks off germaphobics everywhere, wondering if aliens are crawling up their gazoots while they sleep - forget about the probes!

You really are set apon this death star idea, aren't you alex?

I always say how much i hate guns n stuff, but everytime an F111 flies over our house (they train out this way) I get a shiver - man they're cool!

I dislike warfare and I conclude that there is however a need for certain members of our species to conduct war...well they need a foe

...so I give them one in the hope all military resources and personel are mustered at the edge of our Solar system to repell attacks

...they can have war games rec leave and stuff but maybe such a system could keep them off the planet...the military not the aliens

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In contemplating other species we should not look down upon them in the widest sence but we regard anything of a small size as somewhat inferior...well maybe there is a species out there somewhere...not necessarily with plans to come here by the way...that are real small

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If life was cut back to insects on this planet I wonder if say ants could develope in a similar manner to us...

I heard a show in which the narrator assigned mere bacteria with "inteligence"...by a reasonable criteria such that one was inclined to agree...

The point is finally we are finding more facts that surprise us in respect of life and its abilities to survive and flourish...look at those ocean vents and the "brine lakes" in our oceans... folk would have bet against it 15 years ago.

Hey the jets fly over here as well at tree top level

..even eye level when I think about it

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When in real estate I was letting a house and the tenants, young men , were flyers of such jets ..I told them about this place and they knew it because they used to line up the house across the road to fly across the valley

. They said if you can photograph them they will send you an ariel of your place...well they said it b ut I dont know if that is Airforce policy.

alex

Dog Star (Phil) · #51 01-12-2008, 11:00 PM

Ants develop like us? Come on Alex, you're not the sort of bloke who doesn't pay attention to the world around you.
Ants are the virtual masters of their own world. They harvest almost everything around them for food; they exploit their environment in imaginative ways; they wage virtual war on anything that crosses their path regardless of species type; they have developed societies that are both complex and brutally efficient; they are unhampered by superfluous emotion or morality.
The main differences between ants and humans are that they are smaller than us and far more efficient at what they do.
If we ever encounter aliens with similar qualities, the human race will very quickly become extinct.
For ants to develop like us would involve a backward evolutionary step for the ants.
"Go to the ants, thou sluggard. Learn of their ways and be wise."

Babalyon 5 · #52 02-12-2008, 12:24 AM

Mmmmmmm.......My life is based on what I can prove, who I am, photo drivers license, birth certificate, make a 100 pionts at the bank so you can change your own d**n accounts. I think religion and UFO's fall into that category for me also. Come down here, make 100 points and I'll believe you!!

billsmith · #53 02-12-2008, 12:04 PM

This is why UFO are what they are

Mainstream media is governed by a set of rules they must adhere to. These rules aren't so much about no sex scenes or vulgar mouthing off.....these rules relate to what they cannot under any circumstances present to the public.
UFO's ammongst other subjects is one of them.
WHY..................?????

Lets sit back and think for a bit...we're all intelligent beings hence why we are on this discussion forum in the first place.

Lets put our thinking caps on and listen and learn.

For this example UFO's will be substitued for a tree.
The unknown powers that be will be...uuummmmmmmmmm known as bob.

Now one morning the bob is minding his own business working as ususal. At coffee break time he decides to go out the back of the building for a smoke. As he is enjoying the glorious sunshine he glances over the fence across to the native bushland to see what he believes is a very interesting looking tree. He thinks he has time to spend so jumps the fence and gets up close for a look at this tree.
Why is he so interested in this tree?
Well he noticed from over the fence these green and yellow blossoms coming out from each branch. Upon close inspection he sees these blossoms are in fact $50 notes....what you may say $50 notes growing from this tree....not just one or two but dozens and dozens of $50 notes blossoming from this tree.

Now poor bob has a problem on his hands......being the human he is with human traits and characteristics and may i add the main of all human flaws (greed) he decides this tree is coming home with him, he isnt going to let anyone have this tree as he is thinking of the immense wealth he will obtain from this tree.

So promptly he begins to dig this tree from its place of seed and drives home to plant it in his back yard away from public eye.

Months and months pass as bob enjoys the lifestyle of being rich....his tree produces note after note and he loves this lifestyle.....he now has POWER over his friends and family......he can buy what he wants, go where chooses .....why??????.....because he has all this money thanks to his little tree....aaawwwwww how cute.

Problems arise for poor bob.....with all the care and nutrients he gives this tree he doesnt realise that over the months he has had it in his back yard that a seed blew over his fence to the neighbouring park.

A SEEDLING HAS BEGUN GROWING IN THE PARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

So one brisk morning sue is walking her dog astro through the park and suddenly stumbles across this funny looking tree. Upon closer inspection she nearly collapses to her knees as she sees the impossible.........$50 notes growing from this tree...heaps of them.

Oh ....what does she do...she runs back to home to tell barry and trish her neighbours about her find.....you can guess what their response was.

'Sue honey you gotta be joking...you need to see a doctor....money doesn't grow on trees' says barry jokingly.

poor sue is embarrassed but she knows in all her mind she seen what she seen......'how can they not believe me' she thinks to herself.

well through conversation that afternoon at the pub barry tells his mates about this tree sue was talking about....bob enjoying his beer overhears the conversation and no sooner is out to the park to see the tree growing . promptly he yanks it out of the ground takes it home away from any eyes.

good ole baz, trish and sue take a quick drive to the park and the tree doesnt exist anymore much to barry's expected outcome. he and trish give sue one last chuckle and tell her to see a doctor or get married...lol

so what have we learnt here.

money growing on trees does sound highly impossible........because we havnt seen it happen yet......but bob has....he knows its real and for many years to come this tree allows him to literally become australias most powerfull man in charge of very powerfull and wealthy corporations whom have been built on the rewards of genetically altering the tree's genetic build to enhance growth of more notes....he even has trees that grow $100 notes now.....and all this is done away from public eyes in the secrecy of his well hidden organsiations.

poor sue and the many others whom may have seen this seedling in the park will go on living their lives being laughed at everytime they tell their story of the money tree.

bob will at some stage own so much that he buys the tv networks and newspaper companies. The reason behind this is to discredit any sightings of these money tree seedlings that may surface from to time to time. his highly paid employees will search for these trees and move them away from the public so more and more people will discredit those who claim to have seen one and the media stations that bob owns just makes these witnesses a joke and laughing stock for all the country to laugh at when they go on tv to tell of their story......because we know money doesnt grow on trees..........or does it?
are UFO real?.....YES
have i seen craft in the sky here in oz......oooohh yes.....the hairs on the back of your neck do really stand up...trust me they do
do the powers that exist in our world know of their existance?....YES
do they possess technology that would benefit our environment and way of living....YES
will these powers share the important technology they discovered and now possess with you and I and the millions of hungry men, women and children around the world to remove poverty and give heating, cooling and clean drinking water at zero cost of energy....NO
there are a lot of things in this world that you nor i understand and may never understand or be told about.....but there are people in this world whom do know what exists out there beyond the stars and will never tell you or i as this is their money tree which allows them to be in charge always and forever.
open your mind and think like you are meant to....dont blind yourself with ignorance that is pumped into you from reality tv and whether brittany is having another baby....there is more to life than the ususal day to day stupid issues we have on earth. Enjoy your telescopes and what they allow you to see....you may one day see a money tree seedling as bob did by mistake.

Let the user ask about UFO and dont mock him...some of you dont undertand the subject he is asking about and yet you clearly state its all a bag of lies and hocus pocus as if you know first hand.

IF YOU ONLY KNEW............................... ..........................

Thankyou

jungle11 (Greg) · #54 02-12-2008, 01:45 PM

Well, that's one way of putting it...I personally don't seek to mock people who claim to have seen them. I was first to try and help the poster of this thread, and I know what you mean about mocking. Most people respect others opinions, but there's always a few who 'know' they're right.
In saying this I do believe a significant portion of these reports have misinterperated, or are lying. But, yes, I believe for some of the reasons i mentioned in my first post.
On March 30, 1990, the Belgium Air Force scrambled two F-16s after over 100 people reported several UFOs. Two radar tracking stations recorded contacts that correlated with observers positions.
In addition to these stations, the fighters also had contacts at these same positions. Everytime they 'locked-on' with onboard targeting systems the object on radar would move erratically, and with disrespect for how manmade aircraft should move. One movement was a drop in altitude from 3000 to 1700 meters in 1 second (recorded from one jet and on the ground).
The Airforce publicly released all of this, so you've got 100 witnesses, seperate radar facilities, two fighter jet pilots....
Fair enough some people wont believe, but people who do are not complete loons i don't think. Nobody knocks religion (no offence intended - niether do i)

Don't know about government involvement though. Like someone mentioned earlier - if their so advanced, why should they crash in a lightning storm?

enough - i told myself i wouldn't post on this one again - but alas, i am drawn like a moth to a flame!

xelasnave · #55 02-12-2008, 02:40 PM

Welcome billsmith to iceinspace.
I hope my comments have not been interpreted as mocking.
My point is to keep an open mind irrespective of ones present beliefs.
Life must be out there wheter it comes here is up for consideration but currently there seems no hard evidence.
UFO's are just that...Unidentified Flying Objects...they have not been identified as alien or any thing else so the matter is open for speculation but dwell on the word...specualtion.. I speculate on many things yet I keep my feet on the ground and work with the realities I feel confident with.

So where are the photos..I thought someone would have one by now.

alex

jungle11 (Greg) · #56 02-12-2008, 03:21 PM

there are thousands of photos collected on the net alex. just google ufo photos. Question is, are they all fake, or are some of them real?
Lots of photos these days can't be proven either way - computers can make fakes look indistinguishable from real. So photographic evidence will never be proof.

xelasnave · #57 02-12-2008, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jungle11

there are thousands of photos collected on the net alex. just google ufo photos. Question is, are they all fake, or are some of them real?
Lots of photos these days can't be proven either way - computers can make fakes look indistinguishable from real. So photographic evidence will never be proof.

i am shattered that folk may use fake photos...

As I said it is always a case of folk believe what they want to believe so some will say the photos are absolute proof without any thought that a photo may not be for real...

I did a small movie of a small light moving around to replicate a ufo... it was very convincing with me shouting over on the audio... "quick come out and look at this etc"..a mate is teaching me movie making and impressed upon me the value of audio because that suggests what you want the viewer to accept... and with the fear in my voice the movie seemed real... I have showed it to folk and it is surprising those who believe it is for real... it is good admittedly

and difficult to figure how it was done but rock solid evidence for those who want to believe....

alex

jungle11 (Greg) · #58 02-12-2008, 04:15 PM

Yep, there's more than one group of believers.
There's the government flying around in reverse engineered craft using principles humans couldn't possibly understand types.

And there's the one's more like myself, who stand a foot from the fence with one finger touching - trying not to forget the logical points raised here in this forum, but facinated by some pretty convincing evidence that UFOs (whatever they may be) might just be a real phenomenon. The belgium evidence is pretty hard to dismiss i think.

But, in my case, the x files addage 'I want to believe' applies and I need to stop myself sometimes from getting carried away over speculation.

xelasnave · #59 02-12-2008, 04:36 PM

Speculation is fun...absolute belief in anything is dangerous.

Anywyas we wont see any UFO's... the jets patrol the area here and although they never say as much it is to keep the UFO's away...

I find it ammussing the current belief in black holes ... the theory suggests the possibility and now the observations support the theory..understandable but dangerous in my view. AND because the theory suggest it those who believe find the observations as clear proof... I dont and still happy to speculate on alternatives without a commitment to any belief one way or the other.

In fact I do not believe in anything.... so I am a fence sitter as well I guess.

alex

avandonk · #60 02-12-2008, 04:54 PM

I do not bother to even read let alone answer these sort of posts. For all our rationalities some of we humans are really superstitious! Show me a body or any artefact of aliens. Sorry a spear does not count. Anal probe maybe? Why in the very complex mathematical Universe would an alien use an anal probe? Does he really think your brain is in your arse?

Bert

With this sort of thinking the Alien is correct!