Is the Universe very big?

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by LewisM

a) For sure it is Planet X / Nibiru causing fluctuations in Mercury's orbit

b) because, somewhere someone considers it a conspiracy, probably perpetuated upon us by NASA

Did you read the link I posted?
You would find it interesting and perhaps supportive of conspiracy.

As crazy as folk would see me I dont think the Universe probably is expanding and I recognise I ignore the observations and proceed on the possibility the observations were misinterpreted...so unsupported speculation...
And the background radiation is just the stuff that arrives from very distant parts of the Universe.
Could the observations that suggest the universe is expanding be mis interpreted in any way or is it clear that the universe 200% certain is expanding?
Its funny even though scientists work on all this stuff as a day in day out profession we get folk like me saying ...well I think its probably this way...its curious that we do that...well some of us.

Now if you think about it the great man himself was of the view that the universe was static and solved the obvious problem with the cosmological constant inclusion in his formulas...he thought he was wrong...but was he?
Along comes Hubble and needs to show money spent on a big scope was well spent discovers his law...exlawyer so he should.

Did the great man back down to early and live to see his equations used to prove the reverse of his concept of the universe. That with his equations, including the cosmological constant can possibly be described as the greatest incite not his biggest mistake...the universe is static held in place by a force he could only include as a cosmological constant...
Alex

[blindman]

Originally Posted by julianh72

You can't just leave a statement like that hanging there without explanation:

a) What are the unresolved problems with Mercury's orbit that haven't been addressed yet?

b) What is the problem with a general lack of Blue Shift? (It's not correct to say that there is NO observable blue shift, but red shift is far, far more common, as would be expected in an expanding universe.)

Won't leave you just like that, but Antonio is right about Mercury and that's
without any doubts.
See for yourself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VyGl_l3w-4

So if you are so smart, give some contra evidence, I mean Evidence.

[LewisM]

Antonio is a con-artist.

He hasn't got an iota of a clue.

[blindman]

Yes, when you are out of any contra evidence, you are attacking low.

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by blindman

Yes, when you are out of any contra evidence, you are attacking low.

Can you explain what that guy is talking about I could not follow his evidence or anything really.
What is his point in your words.
Alex

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by blindman

So if you are so smart, give some contra evidence, I mean Evidence.

Well, that's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back! (No, I didn't watch to the end.) I've no idea what point he was trying to make, but I gave up when he said "I showed where the Milky Way cannot be seen". But I can see the Milky Way, every cloud-free night of the year.

How's that for contra evidence? I mean REAL evidence, obtained with my own unaided eyes, and verified by anybody who cares to look up at the night sky.

[xelasnave]

H

Originally Posted by julianh72

Well, that's 2 minutes of my life I'll never get back! (No, I didn't watch to the end.) I've no idea what point he was trying to make, but I gave up when he said "I showed where the Milky Way cannot be seen". But I can see the Milky Way, every cloud-free night of the year.

How's that for contra evidence? I mean REAL evidence, obtained with my own unaided eyes, and verified by anybody who cares to look up at the night sky.

I am so humble I thought it was me but you confirming that his guy is not making sense seems a good call.

Blindman was pulling our legs I guess.
Alex

[blindman]

No I don't xelasnave, but Milky way is not important thing anyhow.
Not sure if we can see it whole year thru.
But doesn't really matter, you have your own doubts enough with Moon landing.
No hard feelings.

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by blindman

Not sure if we can see it whole year thru.

Seriously - if you're not sure whether you can see the Milky Way all year round, then perhaps an amateur astronomy forum like IIS is not the best place to be disseminating your "alternative facts"!

[LewisM]

Originally Posted by blindman

Yes, when you are out of any contra evidence, you are attacking low.

Ask yourself a few fundamental questions.

1. Why when it is day here, it is night in the northern hemisphere - if the Earth was flat, then why does the Sun not evenly illuminate the flat earth, considering that to be flat means that the entire surface should be exposed to the Sun's illumination simultaneously. Or is the Sun moving in a circular pattern around the Earth, and the Sun is actually tiny, and oh, hell, never mind. To believe in a flat Earth shows 100% non-compos mentis.

2. Why can't we see Polaris EVER from the Southern Hemisphere? Yet the Northern hemisphere can. Or do they have a different set of stars painted on their celestial dome...

Never mind...I get a headache trying to bring myself to the utterly brainless level of a flat earther to try to understand how these imbeciles think. NO concept of science or even fundamental life whatsoever.

[LewisM]

Originally Posted by julianh72

Seriously - if you're not sure whether you can see the Milky Way all year round, then perhaps an amateur astronomy forum like IIS is not the best place to be disseminating your "alternative facts"!

He sold his telescope recently, so not sure he is into "mainstream" science/Astronomy. Maybe he bought the telescope to prove to himself the Earth was flat or giant insects lived on the moon...

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by blindman

No I don't xelasnave, but Milky way is not important thing anyhow.
Not sure if we can see it whole year thru.
But doesn't really matter, you have your own doubts enough with Moon landing.
No hard feelings.

Moon landing doubts which were simply resolved when my concerns were run by folk who offerred sensible input.

In many respects I am one of the most skeptical people you will ever meet but I listen to reason and perhaps my skeptism does not let me be conned by anything...if the least bit unsure I dont buy it but dont swing to the other side.
I dont particularly like the big bang but I dont run around saying its all wrong...
You need a lot of information before anything should be accepted as 100%...but that does not mean you jump to the other side...
No hard feelings?
I had none so there is no problem.
I was hopeing you could explain what I did not understand...In fact still happy to hear what you are driving at by referencing the vid.
Alex

[Octane (Humayun)]

Obama is a lizardman. And, the Queen is a shapeshifting reptilian, too.

Idiots.

H

[LewisM]

Originally Posted by Octane

Obama is a lizardman. And, the Queen is a shapeshifting reptilian, too.

Idiots.

H

Non-American lizardman, apparently.

Lizzy may just be a lizardwoman...

[blindman]

Actually, you are right.
Interesting thing though, queen was small and whenshe died coffin was big, so what intrigues me what else was in.

[blindman]

Originally Posted by LewisM

He sold his telescope recently, so not sure he is into "mainstream" science/Astronomy. Maybe he bought the telescope to prove to himself the Earth was flat or giant insects lived on the moon...

Mainstream - hmmm - you mean NASA Church?
Or maybe space.com, where they write that lost tool box from orbit was followed by some persona with telescope / binoculars or whatever?

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by LewisM

He sold his telescope recently, so not sure he is into "mainstream" science/Astronomy. Maybe he bought the telescope to prove to himself the Earth was flat or giant insects lived on the moon...

On a recent trip to outback Queensland, I took my telescope for some clear-sky stargazing. Just for the heck of it (and because daytime comes around to ruin the stargazing!) I pointed it at the horizon in daylight, and the Earth was flat all the way to the edge. That's verifiable evidence of a Flat Earth in my books!

(I'm still a bit puzzled why I couldn't see Brisbane or the Pacific Ocean or New Zealand or South America when I looked to the east, though ... )

Oh - and yes, in case you're wondering, the Milky Way was visible!

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by blindman

Actually, you are right.
Interesting thing though, queen was small and whenshe died coffin was big, so what intrigues me what else was in.

What?! The Queen is dead?! Is this another conspiracy? Why weren't we told?!

[LewisM]

I think he's confusing the Queen with The Queen's Mother.

[blindman]

Originally Posted by LewisM

I think he's confusing the Queen with The Queen's Mother.

Same family, isn't it?