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14-04-2017, 09:31 AM
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Ageing badly.
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I used to watch Ch (between 8-10) over their main commercial rival. There was a real qualitative difference. There was actually news on it.
But in the past year that has switched around to the point that my once preferred news service is even worse that its rival. Someone introduced a new business plan or something - sell adverts as news. Commercials dressed up as news seems to account for a third of the news on that channel now. The rest is "man bites dog" stuff blended with ëxclusive breaking news on how pensioners can avoid getting ripped off on their ????? (add your own here), the best suburbs for buying a house, anything that an advertiser would pay for. There is no news worth a darn any more.
The whole world is going to hell in a handbasket and the best our news services can do is which footballer was called a bad name, which star has bigger implants and matters of similar earth-shattering importance.
The one-upon-a-national broadcasting service now leans so far to the feminist left it is a joke, the once-independent-ethnic broadcaster now has as many commercials as the rest.
I now watch about 30 minutes at most a day. For the rest, my TV sits unused entirely.
Peter
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14-04-2017, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by casstony
I suspect you're looking at the more ignorant and arrogant subsection of an already limited subsection of the population who read The Australian. I dare say most intellectuals wouldn't waste their time looking at that paper.
You can find opinionated, arrogant, idiotic comments everywhere that don't necessarily represent the wider community.
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My post was mean't to be a joke.
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14-04-2017, 10:58 AM
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"The one-upon-a-national broadcasting service now leans so far to the feminist left it is a joke"
From any extreme the centre is indistinguishable from the other extreme.
Ian
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14-04-2017, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by AussieTrooper
Agreed. I stopped watching the news a couple of years ago.
Genocide in Syria rates a short mention every now and then, .
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I think of it more as a 'kleptocide'... for those interested in what I mean by that, google: Genie Energy board of directors / Golan Heights / Rupert Murdoch.
For a genuine genocide, you need look no further than the contemporary history of Palestine.
And for those still listening to the MSM crying wolf...
Here's the alleged crater from yet another nerve gas attack in Syria:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-cont...4/Figure-2.png
Clearly the result of an IED and NOT ordinance delivered by the Syrian air force as claimed.
Meanwhile, NATO's illegal war of aggression in Syria and Iraq racks up hundreds (sometimes thousands) of civilian casualties a month... that never get mentioned.
Anyway, back to my cornflakes.
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14-04-2017, 03:00 PM
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Clive did you hear we are under thread from North Korea... Seems we are in range.
I call upon "them" to act before the North Koreans attack.
Alex
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14-04-2017, 03:13 PM
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I always like to see the positive in everything.
When in real estate it was a game we played to be uplifting in our descriptions...so over priced would be ...not entirely competitive in the market at this point...dead end road..quiet cul de sac...that sort of thing.
So where is the positive in the ME?
They at least provide BS that enables us to ignore the horror and remain totally insensitive to the death and destruction.
And provide good reason to believe killing by bombs is really OK but use chemicals and well that is just criminal.
As if there was a nice way to kill someone..
Give me the chemicals so by body parts are kept in one place and not have to wonder how I am still alive with my bottom half gone or the like.
But I am starting to think it is the oil guys not the tribe that you suggest..
Its terrible whatever way you look at it...
Alex
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14-04-2017, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by xelasnave
So where is the positive in the ME?
They at least provide BS that enables us to ignore the horror and remain totally insensitive to the death and destruction.
And provide good reason to believe killing by bombs is really OK but use chemicals and well that is just criminal.
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Excellent point Alex... what's the body count up to now?
Well over 20 million in wars fought against 37 victim nations the US has managed to initiate or participate in since the end of WW2.
(And I am not suggesting these were for the benefit of the US.... these are wars for corporate greed)
How many failed states have been created?
How many brutal psychopathic regimes and narco-terrorist juntas have been enabled?
How can anyone argue that concern for human rights is a plausible pretext for bombing an entire nation back to the stone age?
Did destroying the social infrastructure... the hospitals, power stations, water supplies and economies of Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Syria etc) serve any purpose... at all?
How is it that the opinion shapers of this world, the people who we rely on to inform us, are mostly inveterate liars? we recognise that, but still swallow their lies.
How could the German people be so blind to the insanity of fascism in the 1930's?
How can we be so blind to it today?
I'm being rhetorical of course.
Fascism: Government for, by and of the corporations.
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14-04-2017, 04:24 PM
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In other news, the United airlines public relations disaster dethrones PEPSi for the biggest own goal of 2017... what were they thinking?
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14-04-2017, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by clive milne
In other news, the United airlines public relations disaster dethrones PEPSi for the biggest own goal of 2017... what were they thinking?
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Apparently just complying with the law (government law not that of the air line) that requires pilots to be moved to their next flight so that flights are not disrupted and someone needs to step aside to make it happen.
Clearly enough force was not used to remove the passenger ...they could have just shot him called him a terrorist and be praised....yes handled all wrong and hardly in keeping with the viable shoot first policy.
Alex
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14-04-2017, 04:59 PM
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Clive why worry about the body count they were all bad people bent on destroying our way of life.
Alex
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14-04-2017, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by xelasnave
Clive why worry about the body count they were all bad people bent on destroying our way of life.
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I thought it was our freedom they hated...?
Incidentally, do you remember the Anthrax panic after 9/11, when the West was trembling in fear of Sadam's weapons of mass destruction..? (Those would be the WMD's we sold him to fire at the Iranians)
Just as well we went well on the way to bankrupting the world bombing that country in to rubble hey, poisoning their streets with depleted Uranium in the process (because that's fair and we're winning hearts and minds to boot)
Do you remember the level of media attention devoted to the fact that the Anthrax came from a US weapons (research?) lab...? <sound of crickets chirping>
Do you recall that the primary suspect (exonerated) committed suicide? (how convenient)
Anyone recall that the wife of the first victim of the Anthrax attacks (Bob Stevens) sued the American government, and was given a $2.5m compensation payout?
Say it ain't so....
And as for taking away one's freedom, here's a brand spanking new patriot act for you... yep, we'll keep you safe from those dastardly brown skinned chaps over there on other side of the world.
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14-04-2017, 06:04 PM
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Clive do you watch a show on TV "Persons of Interest"?
Be careful you could become a person of interest.
What can be done?
Not a thing.
As I said they do us a favour providing good reason why we can accept the horror and content ourselves that we are on the side of right.
Happily I am a mug I know nothing and certainly not a subversive...I respect power and I will roll over if they just tickle my tummy.
The truth is just too much to bear...
The truth, I can't handle the truth.
What I don't get is why are they going to bomb North Korea ... Do they have oil?
Is it the clever Chinese manipulating the game via the art of war philosophy.
Is it just USA asserting dominance using North Korea as an excuse to have battle ships in the region...Have you noticed China is been developing a blue water navy?
Alex
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14-04-2017, 07:08 PM
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Alex, I am cynical enough to believe that my observations aren't that important in the greater scheme of things...
But I take your point:
http://izquotes.com/quotes-pictures/...ell-139698.jpg
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14-04-2017, 08:54 PM
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14-04-2017, 10:03 PM
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Just for fits and giggles, here's some real news from ITV... ooops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc
On the other side of the pond, Rumsfeld has his nads served to him in a white wine sauce in congress (on C-span):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_UJweReNTw
with respect to the 3rd question Rumsfeld dodged, google:
operation vigilant guardian
operation global guardian
operation tripod
operation dark winter
For historical context, google:
operation mockingbird
operation northwoods
operation susannah
Gulf of Tonkin incident
USS Liberty.
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15-04-2017, 07:38 PM
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Hi Clive,
On another site a chap seems to see things much the same as your self so I asked him if its as bad as he believes what can be done.
What can be done?
Alex
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15-04-2017, 11:00 PM
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Sorry, but this was not about the war in Syria, or any other war... it was about the lack of real world media coverage for scientific achievements. I feel that working together, for the betterment of humankind should rate far higher than some joker not paying for his or her meal on some reality program about dating. As well as the feeling that gold would float compared to the average Joe in society.
I know in the original post I mentioned two countries are on the brink of war, but that was as background information to highlight the p*ss poor performance of the lamestream media when two countries can sit down and work together to improve mankind's position in space and nearly rates a mention.
If I wanted to debate the reasons for war in <insert flavour for the month country> I would turn to my Bn association site or some left wing news site on stalk book and gain perspectives from all sides that way.
Therefore, as OP I respectfully ask to at least stick loosely on topic of the post... Anyway that's my two cents.
J
P.s sorry if that sounds condescending, I come here so I don't need to be dealing with debates on political decisions of governments.
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15-04-2017, 11:08 PM
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Yeah Jase, par for the course on the forum to go off at a tangent. People have their own axes to grind I suppose, frustrating though...
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15-04-2017, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Exfso
Yeah Jase, par for the course on the forum to go off at a tangent. People have their own axes to grind I suppose, frustrating though... 
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True Peter, I'm generally happy to let posts take the turns and twists, however, let's at least stick remotely to the topic. I mean it's a big stretch to go from; Scientists from two countries put aside their countries politics, to the US are a bunch of war mongering fascist's.
But now I digress. back on topic... at the very least lamestream media had some science news about Cassini and life on Enceladus and the possible capture of images of SGR A* through the use of multiple scopes... maybe just maybe there is hope for mankind, only time will tell.
J
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16-04-2017, 01:05 AM
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Well Jase and Peter, if people had stuck precisely to the topic in your post #1, the thread might well have died a death after a few posts.
Be grateful that people were sufficiently interested to contribute and extend the threads life to 3 pages.
Just saying
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