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12-04-2017, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by casstony
I think this may be closer to the truth; we're on our way to being grumpy old men
Journalism has been corrupted in recent decades making much of the media untrustworthy. There was a time when publishing material without doing proper research would be unthinkable.
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Today it is about getting maximum viewers at a given time, facts will only confuse the issues....
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12-04-2017, 07:36 PM
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Politically incorrect.
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12-04-2017, 09:35 PM
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 ... it's coming Rom faster than you think.... doesn't matter how much you dodge and weave It'll catch yah ....!!!
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12-04-2017, 10:25 PM
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The first humans to Mars will be part of a reality show.
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12-04-2017, 11:31 PM
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Yep I am turning into a grumpy old fart no doubt about it. It is a wonder the younger generation don't all have scars on their foreheads from walking into objects, you rarely see someone walking without their eyes glued on the phones, how they see where they are going is beyond me.
I was at a pub a couple of months ago and this group of young people rocked up, 6 to be exact and they sat at a table, and not a word was said that I heard, for an hour all they did was fiddle with their phones, probably they were talking to each other via this method. So much for verbal intercourse.
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13-04-2017, 07:39 AM
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Politically incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Exfso
So much for verbal intercourse. 
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... and the radiation will fix the other kind so we wont have to deal with their off-spring, one hopes.
My 15 year old son tried the, "I am to busy to communicate other than by mobile", trick... once! You'd be amazed at the reaction you get when they see their gadget pinned to a post with a six nail.
He was back to "normal' a few days later.
Nope, I don't rate that as being over the top grumpy; I call it being in charge, and consistent.
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13-04-2017, 09:41 AM
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Rom, I love the 6" nail trick, nearly fell off my chair laughing. Excellent stuff...
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13-04-2017, 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by el_draco
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My 15 year old son tried the, "I am to busy to communicate other than by mobile", trick... once! You'd be amazed at the reaction you get when they see their gadget pinned to a post with a six nail.
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Kids glued to their damn phones drives me nuts. More than once I've threatened to hit the phone with a hammer.
I raised the topic of this thread over dinner last night and was informed by my wife (a psychologist) that IQ tests used in the profession are updated every 10 years to account for increasing intelligence, a phenomenon known as The Flynn Effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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13-04-2017, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by MortonH
The first humans to Mars will be part of a reality show.
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If that's what it takes to get public support for the mission I'd be ok with a reality show.
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13-04-2017, 10:37 AM
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Hmm. I used to work for a local television network broadcasting a national signal. Name will go unmentioned.
Over the last twelve months (I left six months ago) I have found that the news is being gradually filled with what could be easily mistaken for paid commercials. Having what's hot at Coles and Woolies this week, buying trends with retailers with interviews and showcasing large multi nationals, insurance companies, rating washing powder and energy drinks, Choice Magazine having their two cents worth and so on. It is getting very much like Today Tonight and A Current Affair. Thankfully the local Tasmanian content is still news worthy but the national news is getting worse. So what we see on the Sunrise and Today shows gets repeated on the morning shows, then on the morning news, on the afternoon news, on the afternoon variety shows and then again on the nightly news. By six o'clock,, if you've watched tv all day, you've seen the same thing four or five times and is no longer news.
The same goes for the floods last week. Yes, very devastating but why do they need to "brave" the wild and windy weather just to make themselves look cool that they were in the storm as it came through. Eggheads! Plus showing the same images over and over again and giving us the casualty and death tolls like it's a game show.
Anyway rant over. Sorry.
To touch on the point of showing stuff from the ISS and so on, I have observed quite a bit of content from the said query on our news service over the last 18 months. I am not sure if it comes nationally or as a local item to fill some void in the bulletin. Either way, I like seeing it.
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13-04-2017, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by casstony
If that's what it takes to get public support for the mission I'd be ok with a reality show.
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Given that the current plan is for a one way trip, you'd have to think very, very carefully about allowing cameras in there.
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13-04-2017, 01:50 PM
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Politically incorrect.
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Originally Posted by casstony
Kids glued to their damn phones drives me nuts. More than once I've threatened to hit the phone with a hammer.
I raised the topic of this thread over dinner last night and was informed by my wife (a psychologist) that IQ tests used in the profession are updated every 10 years to account for increasing intelligence, a phenomenon known as The Flynn Effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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I've been a teacher for longer than I care to remember.... Flynn obviously never worked in a school. The plunge in intellect I have witnessed both directly and in the world at large is breathtakingly obvious.
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13-04-2017, 02:04 PM
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Politically incorrect.
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Originally Posted by Exfso
Rom, I love the 6" nail trick, nearly fell off my chair laughing. Excellent stuff... 
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I suspect most people wouldn't dare stand up to their kids these days but, IMHO, parenting is not a democracy, it's a dictatorship; and I am the head tator.
I can still face down the 15 year old, even if he looks me square in the eye when I do it.  I've got three sons, three real men. I wouldn't tolerate anything else.
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13-04-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MortonH
The first humans to Mars will be part of a reality show.
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And they'll be young, fit and beautiful. Not a grumpy cripple like me.. and they'll bleat on about inequality and harmony while discriminating against everyone not young, fit and beautiful who would never even be considered for a chance to go into space.
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13-04-2017, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Sconesbie
Hmm. I used to work for a local television network broadcasting a national signal. Name will go unmentioned.
Over the last twelve months (I left six months ago) I have found that the news is being gradually filled with what could be easily mistaken for paid commercials. Having what's hot at Coles and Woolies this week, buying trends with retailers with interviews and showcasing large multi nationals, insurance companies, rating washing powder and energy drinks, Choice Magazine having their two cents worth and so on. It is getting very much like Today Tonight and A Current Affair. Thankfully the local Tasmanian content is still news worthy but the national news is getting worse. So what we see on the Sunrise and Today shows gets repeated on the morning shows, then on the morning news, on the afternoon news, on the afternoon variety shows and then again on the nightly news. By six o'clock,, if you've watched tv all day, you've seen the same thing four or five times and is no longer news.
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Agreed. I stopped watching the news a couple of years ago.
Genocide in Syria rates a short mention every now and then, but someone calling an AFL footballer a bad name is apparently important enough to warrant a weeks long saga, with long segments and interviews.
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13-04-2017, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sil
And they'll be young, fit and beautiful.
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Dash, that means I could have gone
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13-04-2017, 04:20 PM
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Gravity does not Suck
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I am not looking forward to getting old.
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13-04-2017, 04:45 PM
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I raised the topic of this thread over dinner last night and was informed by my wife (a psychologist) that IQ tests used in the profession are updated every 10 years to account for increasing intelligence, a phenomenon known as The Flynn Effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
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Your wife should try reading the comments section for any online "The Australian" article.
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13-04-2017, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sjastro
Your wife should try reading the comments section for any online "The Australian" article.
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I suspect you're looking at the more ignorant and arrogant subsection of an already limited subsection of the population who read The Australian. I dare say most intellectuals wouldn't waste their time looking at that paper.
You can find opinionated, arrogant, idiotic comments everywhere that don't necessarily represent the wider community.
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14-04-2017, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by casstony
If that's what it takes to get public support for the mission I'd be ok with a reality show.
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Many, many moons ago as a mere sprat I recall watching the moon landing with all my classmates. Was this the first reality show? Maybe they can do the same for this Mars expedition, but include all training etc etc as a several years long series. However, I fear this would detract from the importance of the mission and the viewing public would regard it as being as relevant as "My Kitchen Rules" or similar.............
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