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Old 13-11-2011, 07:37 PM
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Well in fairness we had been imaging Jupiter for several days before the Uranus imaging request. I had left a day before the interview, but the images we ones we had gathered during the nights before. Anthony had collected some data on Uranus but it was at the wrong time. Some images are better than none.
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Old 13-11-2011, 08:24 PM
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Well in all fairness I believe it is true to say that astrology can be described as `mystic', certainly. It has many unknown variables associated which prevent it from ever being described as an exact science...
... and those 'many unknown variables' also result in its unverifiability .. which precludes it from being used in the same sentence as 'Science'.

It is in fact, also, this particular aspect, which precisely defines it as a pseudoscience !

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kind of like trying to say that humans are responsible for MOST global warming. I mean IF humans are making all the species go extinct, it follows that humans are the MAJOR vector for changing the planet and therefore the MOST LIKELY cause of the said warming. That's not an exact science either...
I'll say ! ... the 'logic' of your argument is more like: "a total crock" !

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and the reason is there is too many variables for one human to contemplate. Just because something is not as exact as a mathematical equation, (i'd like to see something in the universe which is ) does not necessarily mean something should be dismissed as `rubbish'. That work riles me up. It irks me.
Feel free to be irked ! ... The real universe doesn't care !
Astrology is rubbish because it is not objective (in any sense), internally consistent, nor is it independently verifiable ... and these aspects are openly admitted by most Astrologers !... And the even more bizarre thing, is that somehow, Astrology followers seem to glorify these very aspects which are the very ones which exclude it from ever being comparable with 'Science' in the first place !

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Old 14-11-2011, 01:49 AM
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... and those 'many unknown variables' also result in its unverifiability .. which precludes it from being used in the same sentence as 'Science'.

It is in fact, also, this particular aspect, which precisely defines it as a pseudoscience !


I'll say ! ... the 'logic' of your argument is more like: "a total crock" !


Feel free to be irked ! ... The real universe doesn't care !
Astrology is rubbish because it is not objective (in any sense), internally consistent, nor is it independently verifiable ... and these aspects are openly admitted by most Astrologers !... And the even more bizarre thing, is that somehow, Astrology followers seem to glorify these very aspects which are the very ones which exclude it from ever being comparable with 'Science' in the first place !

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It may surprise you to know that statistics is used in science? So if something is right 70% of the time... it isn't? Statistics is used in psychology and biology very frequently. Both have an immense number of variables, which in your words make them `psedosciences'. AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! Have you ever been to university? Your argument is pure crap! I'm sorry to have to tell this to you since you seem very self-important!

Oh I See... the universe doesn't care... and you know this... because you are god? Yes you would make a good pencil-pusher. Just leave the innovation to the real men with real brains who are openminded enough to realise that they don't know everything.
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