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Old 21-06-2009, 12:05 PM
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What a load of crock.....seriously, you have no idea what I am talking about.......now look who has a closed mind......I'll leave it at that knowing you have no clue and just because you may a little bit about astronomy.......a b it like a botanist scientist talking about how a computer works..........talk about calling the kettle black!!! You unreal....how dare you ask about closing my thread down!!!!

I started this post wanting to get a view of peoples thoughts about Planet X.........whether you believe is not now of no importance to me!!!

Not my fault the topic got out of hand........besides, this area is called 'general chat'........look at other posts......talking about Star Trek........pilot dies in mid air.............perhaps this topic touched a nerve with you which you dont seem to comprehend let alone understand???!! Perhaps you should then not enter this part of the forum!!!
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Old 21-06-2009, 12:31 PM
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This topic and others in the same genre appear to strongly polarize Forum members. From what I have observed, Team A never convinces Team B and vice versa.

Because the topic is so polarizing, it is not unusual to find strong views at both ends of the spectrum thus the post becomes a breeding ground for misunderstanding, intense disagreement and highly charged reactions.

I think it is nigh impossible to put forward a well though out, comprehensive, philosophically coherent case and then for that to be addressed in an equally comprehensive manner; after all, the parties in these debates did not suddenly wake up one morning and adopt their position. Their position is usually based on a gradual adoption of their system of thought over a long period of time with several key milestones that validate why they subscribe to that particular understanding.

I suspect that person to person discussions would not sway either party, although the sting may be taken out of the interchange as you are interacting face to face rather than via a keyboard. It seems that the keyboard is poor medium when such opposing views are being espoused?

I think that this might be a reason these threads get locked?

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Old 21-06-2009, 12:42 PM
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This topic and others in the same genre appear to strongly polarize Forum members. From what I have observed, Team A never convinces Team B and vice versa.

Because the topic is so polarizing, it is not unusual to find strong views at both ends of the spectrum thus the post becomes a breeding ground for misunderstanding, intense disagreement and highly charged reactions.

I think it is nigh impossible to put forward a well though out, comprehensive, philosophically coherent case and then for that to be addressed in an equally comprehensive manner; after all, the parties in these debates did not suddenly wake up one morning and adopt their position. Their position is usually based on a gradual adoption of their system of thought over a long period of time with several key milestones that validate why they subscribe to that particular understanding.

I suspect that person to person discussions would not sway either party, although the sting may be taken out of the interchange as you are interacting face to face rather than via a keyboard. It seems that the keyboard is poor medium when such opposing views are being espoused?

I think that this might be a reason these threads get locked?

Cheers

Dennis
Thanks Dennis, a lot more diplomatic response which i have no problem with at all..........
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Old 21-06-2009, 12:44 PM
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Responses here and in any part of the forum need to be civil.

Once personal attacks begin, we as moderators have no choice but to step in and act and that's something we don't like doing.

Please keep the responses on a non-personal level else the thread will be locked and offending posts removed.
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Old 21-06-2009, 01:00 PM
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Scientists have recently detected a planet (COROT-Exo_7b) with about 2x the Earths radius orbiting a star 400 LY away. If Planet X was going to hit or disrupt Earth in 2012 even if it was travelling at the speed of light could be no further then 3.5 light years away. Anyone who is capable of rational thought would soon work out we would have seen it by now. The evidence does not support it's existence.

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Old 21-06-2009, 01:21 PM
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What a load of crock.....seriously, you have no idea what I am talking about.......
I do know what you're talking about -- a planet that doesn't exist.

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now look who has a closed mind......I'll leave it at that knowing you have no clue and just because you may a little bit about astronomy.......a b it like a botanist scientist talking about how a computer works..........talk about calling the kettle black!!! You unreal....
You're wrong. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to astronomy. I don't have any formal education in the field (apart from one elective at university); just the things I've read and picked up over the years. I don't have a closed mind -- as clueless about astronomy as I am, and perhaps clueless about everything else in life, I am not that gullible to believe in an non-existent planet. I update Starry Night Pro Plus at least once a week and it still doesn't have its orbital elements.

You mention that my stance is a bit like a botanist talking about how a computer works (you're pretty close, in my case it would be a computer scientist talking about plants). That may be so, but, I put it to you that if professional astronomers/scientists talk about (well, they probably don't talk about it at all) the non-existence of Planet X, is that still not enough evidence to discount its existence? And, professional astronomers, unlike me, aren't clueless -- they know what they're talking about.

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how dare you ask about closing my thread down!!!!
Well, seeing as Mike locked the human rights violation thread yesterday, I thought I might be on a bit of a roll and thought I'd ask. I'm amazed that this one's gone on longer than the other ones that are usually killed two or three posts into it.

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I started this post wanting to get a view of peoples thoughts about Planet X.........whether you believe is not now of no importance to me!!!
If you didn't care for what I (or anyone else thought) then why would you ask for our opinions on Planet X? I gave mine.

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Not my fault the topic got out of hand........besides, this area is called 'general chat'........look at other posts......talking about Star Trek........pilot dies in mid air.............perhaps this topic touched a nerve with you which you dont seem to comprehend let alone understand???!! Perhaps you should then not enter this part of the forum!!!
Star Trek = movie. Pilot dying in mid air = fact. Planet X = makes me angry, steam comes out my ears and I froth at the mouth. So, you're 100% correct, it did touch a nerve.

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Old 21-06-2009, 01:35 PM
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A Planet X thread? How did this fly under my radar

We've been over this topic many times. It's bound to come up from time to time, especially when it gets discussed in other media, or as we get closer to 2012.

In general I have no problem with people asking about it if they're genuinely curious because of what they've heard, but once said person has been educated then the thread no longer needs to continue.
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