Tabloid media.

[PeterM]

[QUOTE=Peter Ward

Mind you...I hear Dutton has it (OK. I'm not a fan)[/QUOTE]

Agreement me neither, but I wish the runny nosed polly well in quarantine.

[xelasnave]

I hope folk are mature enough not to enjoy such.
Alex

[PeterM]

You are right Alex, amended. I take no enjoyment in anyone coming down with this. Sincerely wish him well and speedy recovery. Nobody should have to experience what isolation from family and the world is like for 2 weeks or weeks on end.

[Peter Ward]

If the COVID19 R naught is what some say, then by Tuesday we should see 312 or so cases in Oz...and 600 or so by next weekend.

We shall see....

[PeterM]

Amended my estimate to no what an awful game!
There is good news on the vaccine front from Queensland Uni, China and USA. Human volunteer trials very soon. Incredible, maybe science finest hour.

[Ukastronomer (Jeremy)]

"In countries such as South Korea where testing extensive and at around 140,000+ at present the mortality rate is running down about to about 0.6%."

Is that fact, or what they tell you and you believe ?


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[Ukastronomer (Jeremy)]

Originally Posted by Peter Ward

The London school of medicine has been plotting the new and recovering cases of Corona for a time now....but are now using an "epi curve".

Sadly this common sense method of plotting the severity of on epidemic has been lost on the tabloid media. COVID19 peaked globally on about February 9th and the number of people affected is now waning. See:

https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2...maps-are-wrong

https://vac-lshtm.shinyapps.io/ncov_tracker/

The media are still beating this thing up for all they are worth...but the reality is, while total case numbers may trickle up slowly, new incidence is well on the decline.

Hence my prediction is in about a month from now, many will be scratching their heads and wonder what the fuss was all about

Still worried about carking it? Get a flu shot, get some exercise, pay attention on the roads.....neglecting these will far more likely kill you.

Hence my prediction is in about a month from now, many will be scratching their heads and wonder what the fuss was all about

I hope you are right, but can we remember this quote and comment on in it 6 weeks time

Yes 100% the media are a pain, I agree, I am sick of it, eg. How many people here (I don't know your roads) pay ANY attention to the signs that say "accident 40" on motorways any more, no one because for years we have slowed down for miles, NOTHING and sped up again, after years we now ignore it


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[SimmoW (SIMON)]

I work in aged care, so I find most of this thread awful, to suggest a beat up is life threatening for many thousands of vulnerable folks.

Be safe, vigilant and as soon as you get that dry cough seek treatment. You DO NOT want it to make its way into your lungs. At any age.

[theodog (Jeff)]

Originally Posted by SimmoW

I work in aged care, so I find most of this thread awful, to suggest a beat up is life threatening for many thousands of vulnerable folks.

Be safe, vigilant and as soon as you get that dry cough seek treatment. You DO NOT want it to make its way into your lungs. At any age.

I agree, on behalf of my, and my partners, elderly parents.

What harm comes from a little "beat-up" to keep our elders safe?

So you miss your race, you miss your sport? how much would you miss your older family members?

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by Peter Ward

See:

https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2...maps-are-wrong

https://vac-lshtm.shinyapps.io/ncov_tracker/

The media are still beating this thing up for all they are worth...but the reality is, while total case numbers may trickle up slowly, new incidence is well on the decline.

The first of those links says new cases per day peaked on February 4. The second link shows a graph with a massive spike on about February 13 (due to new diagnosis criteria), and a steady rise in new cases per day all through March - presumably due to the fact that it has now "broken out" to start renewed exponential growth in multiple locations around the globe.

If we can't trust the tabloid media, which of your two links should we trust?

My money says Donald Trump was watching the first one until only a couple of days ago, but the medical professionals are focusing on data as in the second link, and the rate of new cases is still growing globally.

Stay healthy, people!

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Take a look at his latest post (still a few days out of date - March 11) - his current graph shows a clear up-tick of new cases globally at the start of March, and he mentions in passing how the graph in the earlier piece related to new cases in China, not globally - but he hasn't corrected the earlier article, so if you read it today, you might think he is still claiming that new cases of coronavirus are on the decline.

https://www.futurehealth.live/blog/2...what-not-to-do

We haven't beaten coronavirus yet.

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by SimmoW

I work in aged care, so I find most of this thread awful, to suggest a beat up is life threatening for many thousands of vulnerable folks.

Be safe, vigilant and as soon as you get that dry cough seek treatment. You DO NOT want it to make its way into your lungs. At any age.

My 32yo son with CP lives in supported living. A serious chest infection from this virus would likely be life ending for him even if he could get the best hospital care. So yes I have a lot to lose. People like you are our front line, I have great respect for you. At a time like this, in your line of work self awareness will make a huge difference to outcomes. If the media is disturbing the overall community enough to check their health when they develop a sore throat, cough, mild fevers before they go to work especially in our aged/disability care then so be it. This is not the time for a "she'll be right" or "soldier on" mentality.

[RB (Andrew)]

A reminder for all members of IIS - think twice before posting.

This is a very sensitive and emotional subject for many.

Expressing 'happiness' that a politician has tested positive will not be tolerated nor will any other posts along similar lines.
One IIS member has already been given a 2-month ban for expressing such in one of his posts.

Please keep posts civil and thoughtful towards others, else please don't post here.

RB

[The Mekon (John Briggs)]

All I will say is that in my view, yesterday (Friday 13th) was peak panic day as far as this event goes. Hopefully things will clam down from here on.

[julianh72 (Julian)]

Originally Posted by PeterM

So, today is the 13th and we are up from 126 to 156 ...an increase of ...% you can let me know. So what numbers do you predict for tomorrow Pete?

197 cases at 6:30 am on 14 March.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...v-health-alert

Peaked? I think not!

[Outcast (Carlton)]

Originally Posted by The Mekon

All I will say is that in my view, yesterday (Friday 13th) was peak panic day as far as this event goes. Hopefully things will clam down from here on.

I admire your optimism....

[PeterM]

I amended my post last night by taking out "there should be more of them (pollys) in quarantine" I will show respect and wish a speedy recovery to Mr Dutton now, because he took the advice to test and speak out and go into quarantine. Bravo. However as the "tabloid press" and qualified professionals are now stating many more of our pollys who came into contact with him should be tested and in self quarantine at least. As I thought last night. But they seem to be finding excuses. If it doesn't start at the top with well qualified advice we are up ship creek and the "tabloid press" who are balancing out their reports with highly qualified advice maybe all we have. Better than an obscure link or two.
If I am banned for speaking my mind then my very best thoughts for you and your families including the op.

[Peter Ward]

Originally Posted by julianh72

197 cases at 6:30 am on 14 March.
https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...v-health-alert

Peaked? I think not!

I'm also following the Department of health website with some interest as they have no interest in headlines....as they used to say in Dragnet, "just the facts, m'am , just the facts"

27 cases have recovered. So the actives cases in Oz are at 170. I'd suggest it's too early to tell whether recovery will outweigh new cases at this point.

Australian Dept of health and welfare state:

"The leading cause of death for all older Australians was coronary heart disease—51,600 deaths between 2014 and 2016, followed by dementia and Alzheimer disease (37,400 deaths), cerebrovascular disease (29,800), chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (19,500) and lung cancer (19,200)"

or about 520 people a day for the 2014/16 period. COVID19 deaths remain at 3 in one month (or so)

[RB (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by PeterM

If I am banned for speaking my mind then my very best thoughts for you and your families including the op.

No Peter, I don't think I've ever come across any of your posts to find them offensive, hurtful towards others, or against the TOS.

RB

[OICURMT]

National Emergency declared in the USA

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/13/polit...ncy/index.html