Formula1 talk

[Astro_Bot]

Thanks, all, for the extra links.

Originally Posted by astroron

I think there will be a lot of front end damage as the driver will have such a great difficulty because he will have no idea where the nose is.

I'm not so sure. The nose width is apparently 75mm narrower on each side, so less likelihood of getting clipped from the side. Wasn't most 2013 nose damage caused by clipping from the side, particularly when crowding through corners?

[simmo]

Things have changed a little.

This is how noses used to be damaged. Thank god he was wearing a helmet or it may have been worse.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JogHiS...%3D8JogHiSR5P4

Simmo

[Astro_Bot]

Originally Posted by simmo

This is how noses used to be damaged.

[astroron (Ron)]

Originally Posted by simmo

Things have changed a little.

This is how noses used to be damaged. Thank god he was wearing a helmet or it may have been worse.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8JogHiS...%3D8JogHiSR5P4

Simmo

I remember watching that race and thinking, what a dumb ass.trying to hit someone in the head with a crash helmet on.
Funny though
Cheers

[Astro_Bot]

Well, the Ferrari has been revealed. IMHO, the McLaren has cleaner lines and a shade more elegance but what that translates to on the track, if anything, I don't know.

Originally Posted by Scuderia Ferrari

In addition, as permitted by the regulation, the F14 T will have a brake-by-wire system for the first time to allow us to optimize pedal consistency and brake balance control as the ERS braking contribution changes during the braking manoeuvre.

I wasn't aware of that. Are any of the other manufacturers using brake-by-wire (McLaren doesn't say)?

[clive milne]

Originally Posted by Astro_Bot

Well, the Ferrari has been revealed.

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...9_72519258.jpg

Fernando gets sick of eating red bull dust... drives vacuum cleaner for 2014

[Kunama]

Originally Posted by gary

Did you also see this Jan 24th link -
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/142581.html

Come 2015, tyre warmers will be banned.

Whoa!

Amid safety concerns about coming out on cold tyres, Pirelli have to
come out with a new compound.

Given the change of compounds in recent years have made huge differences
with regards how drivers trade-off speed versus tyre management, this might put
another cat amongst the pigeons.

For example, it is often cited that Vettel coped with the faster wearing tyres
whilst drivers like Hamilton did not.

So what changes might this make? Will the 2015 compound wear faster or slower?
Will tracks still "rubber-in"? What levels of grip will these new tyres provide when cold?
Can you come out of the pits, hit Eau Rouge at 300km/h and not come skating off?

Speaking of Eau Rouge, turn up the sound, go full screen, up the quality setting
and check out this onboard start by Fernando Alonso at Spa last year as he goes
wheel to wheel with the Red Bull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu34Kw490Ws

I think the idea of banning tyre warmers will be a good one as it again puts more emphasis on the driver's ability to drive "smartly". Driver's will have to curb their enthusiasm and think more carefully about how they run the first 3 laps after a pit stop and also whether to pit and run on cold tyres or make the others last a bit longer.

I remember Alain Prost's interviews where he said he did not care if he was not leading during race as it was only his wish to be in the lead on the last lap.
They didn't call him the 'Professor' for nothing, he was fantastic at analysing the whole race and then placed himself in the correct place at the appropriate time.

[gary]

Originally Posted by clive milne

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...9_72519258.jpg

Fernando gets sick of eating red bull dust... drives vacuum cleaner for 2014

Thanks Clive,

I'll pay that one!

4 minute video of release here.
http://f14t.ferrari.com/en/

At least Fernando gets the hug.

For those not familiar, the aces in the pack allegory in the video is also a tribute
to Fernando's love of performing card tricks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mefLkzDyQS4

[astroron (Ron)]

Just spent some time going through the new F1 cars for 2014, boy there are some funny noses among them.
http://www.formula1.com/news/
Cheers

[gary]

Originally Posted by astroron

Just spent some time going through the new F1 cars for 2014, boy there are some funny noses among them.
http://www.formula1.com/news/
Cheers

Hi Ron,

With regards the noses, it is interesting to see the different engineering
interpretations, all of which, supposedly, are within the formula.

It makes you wonder whether there are F1 engineers who upon viewing a rival's nose
design for the first time, strike their own forehead and say, "Damn! Why didn't i
think of doing it like that!"

Looks like the changes challenged the best of them.

Originally Posted by Adrian Newey

“Now the front wing endplates are right in front of the front wheel - they’re in about the worst possible place; not inside, not outside. That means the majority of the flow now stagnates in front of the front wheel. A little bit (of air flow) finds its way outside and the rest comes inside, and in doing so makes quite a mess of the front wheel wake.

With those endplates right in front of your own wheels, you certainly wouldn't want
them bumped off as it looks like you will be the one scoring the punctures.

[astroron (Ron)]

Hi Gary, I reckon there will be some fun and games at the Australian GP
14-16 March, I cant wait to see the first corner.
Cheers

[04Stefan07 (Stefan)]

Testing and the new engine noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4

[astroron (Ron)]

Originally Posted by 04Stefan07

Testing and the new engine noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4

Thanks Stefan,
Some funny sounding engines there.
Cheers

[gary]

Originally Posted by 04Stefan07

Testing and the new engine noise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s99QFe6htJ4

Thanks Stefan!

Perhaps Caterham drew from the evolutionary forces of nature when conceiving the design of the nose for their new car.
Nature:
http://thatwildbunch.com/cms/wp-cont...ngue-Nose-.jpg
Caterham:
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2014/0...eresting-nose/

[Astro_Bot]

Thanks, Stefan. A couple of them sounded positively sick - the Red Bull and Caterham in particular. The Ferrari sounded "best" to my untrained ear.

Some weird noses!

The McLaren seems to be the best looking so far (or maybe that's wishful thinking), but I didn't see it on the track? Of course, we all know that attractive cars go faster .......

[gary]

Testing in Bahrain starts today.

Back at Jerez in Spain, plagued with problems with the new Renault power units,
Red Bull only got in 21 laps of testing compared to Mercedes 309 laps, Ferrari's
251 laps and McLaren's 245 laps.

So the Renault-powered teams - Red Bull, Toro Rosso and Caterham - will have
some catching up to do by doing the baseline work in Bahrain that they had intended
to do in Spain.

Vettel is scheduled to test drive the RB10 later today and tomorrow and Ricciardo
on the 21st and 22nd of February.

Alonso will be testing the first two days in the F14-T and Kimi the following two days.

Lewis is going out first in the McLaren, then Nico.

Kevin Magnussen gets to push the McLaren around Bahrain ahead of Button.

There will be a third test session in Bahrain between 27 Feb and 2nd March before the
Australian Grand Prix on the 16th March.

[gary]

Vettel got out today in Bahrain in the Red Bull but some five hours late with
only three hours left to go today.

It is reported that Mercedes and McLaren are looking very impressive and consistently
at the top of the times and running generally reliably. Lewis is only 3.5 seconds
off the fastest time for P1 in Bahrain last year. Fernando is 3 seconds off the pace.

[astroron (Ron)]

Originally Posted by gary

Vettel got out today in Bahrain in the Red Bull but some five hours late with
only three hours left to go today.

It is reported that Mercedes and McLaren are looking very impressive and consistently
at the top of the times and running generally reliably. Lewis is only 3.5 seconds
off the fastest time for P1 in Bahrain last year. Fernando is 3 seconds off the pace.

I am following it on the BBC website, the official F1 site is not showing much information at all,no times or much else for that matter.
Cheers

[gary]

Originally Posted by astroron

I am following it on the BBC website, the official F1 site is not showing much information at all,no times or much else for that matter.
Cheers

Hi Ron,

Been reading the live feed from the BBC.

Still big problems for the Renault-powered cars. Did you see where Jennie Gow reported
that the RB-10's turbo was not kicking-in like the other cars, there was a distinct smell
of something burning and it came back to the pits on the back of a truck. They only
managed a handful of laps again.

[astroron (Ron)]

Times and reliability are improving, Mercedes are running well and seem to be the fastest so far.
Last day of testing till early march then,
Can't wait for the start on 14-15 March In Australia for the first raceof the season.
Cheers