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26-06-2013, 04:18 PM
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I've always said after the second glass  they all taste the same Hic! hic!
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26-06-2013, 04:20 PM
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ze frogginator
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The only good wine is the one you enjoy.
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26-06-2013, 05:42 PM
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The worst wines are the ones that taste great.
You don't know when to stop!
Barry
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26-06-2013, 10:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by multiweb
The only good wine is the one you enjoy.
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Very true!
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27-06-2013, 02:48 AM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes
You don't know when to stop!
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In that case you need to stop worrying. Works for me 
Cheers
Steffen
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27-06-2013, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes
The worst wines are the ones that taste great.
You don't know when to stop!
Barry
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I automatically stop when I fall over.
Charles
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27-06-2013, 09:51 AM
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ze frogginator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfranks
I automatically stop when I fall over.
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 That's because you need to roll, not drop.
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27-06-2013, 11:26 AM
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avandonk
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I would imagine it is just a daunting to compare astro images for judging as wine is. Everyone's taste is different.
I have never tasted an Australian wine that I would not drink to the last drop.
There are experiments where people were given identical liquids that only varied in colour. The dyes were tasteless. Yet their so called taste was biased just by the colour.
Even the effect of alcohol can be induced by the placebo effect. This has been proved with double blind tests where half the people at a party were systematically only given full strength drinks and the other half given drinks with only a trace of alcohol. Most of the people given virtually no alcohol stlll seemed to get drunk.
Taste is really governed by your sense of smell.
Much more work is needed to resolve this. I will keep on experimenting.
Bert
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27-06-2013, 11:29 AM
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Support your local RFS
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Now was that "Roll, Stagger, Stagger, Fall"
Or was it "Fall, Stagger, Roll, Stagger"
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27-06-2013, 12:06 PM
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ze frogginator
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Quote:
Originally Posted by avandonk
Taste is really governed by your sense of smell.
Much more work is needed to resolve this. I will keep on experimenting.
Bert
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That's right. Wine will taste different depending on what you're eating at the time or even what you just drank before. The only 'objective' tasting would be to be blind folded, taste, spit and rince your mouth. But where's the fun in that.
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27-06-2013, 02:19 PM
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Wine tasting should always be accompanied by a bit of cheddar, clears the palate and neutralises the acid taste before the next wine. I practice it a lot. One day I will get it right....  Hic !!
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27-06-2013, 03:43 PM
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No obs, raising Harrison
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That is a very interesting article.
I meet up weekly with a group of friends and a bottle or three will be vanquished. Two of them in particular smack their lips and try and place the region, grape variety, etc, and utter phrases like "hot", "chewy" and such.
I've tried for years to try and get on board so I can least hold a conversation with them. In the end I just gave up and drink it
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27-06-2013, 04:08 PM
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I wouldn't want to try to judge wine. Tasting 50 different items in a few hours would be terribly difficult to achieve any consistency.
The closest experience I have to this is being a judge for junior gymnastics. At least with it we have concrete things to look for and can deduct points accordingly. It is easy to judge a "bent arm or leg" compared to the vague palate feel for a particular wine.
Even so after the 40th kid in a row doing a simple vault they all blurr into each other and it is hard to be consistent.
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27-06-2013, 04:58 PM
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Teknition
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I read the article with suspicion. I am not a wine judge nor am I a beginner in wine circles. I have often blind tasted wines. The differences are worlds apart, between whites and reds, old or young. It becomes difficult when the wines are very similar. Particularly if you allow the olfactory senses to become saturated. That is when mistakes occur. After a few glasses similar wines taste the same and lose their zap.
Discriminating subtle differences is just too hard but red to white? I'd have to be unable to stand before a white can pass as a red.
I do not believe that seasoned tasters can be fooled so easily, regarding colouring white wine. 
Much of that article IMHO appears to be bovine fertilizer.
The "researcher may have stumbled on a few incompetent tasters who had too much and drawn conclusions from them alone.
Good wines are distinctly, that,.. Good. If you have never tried a good wine and only drink cheap, you can not judge.
Life is too short to drink bad wine.
Cheers
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27-06-2013, 05:06 PM
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I agree but the problem would be tasting many quite similar wines and then trying to give a consistent score when you have 50 to taste. The very good and the terrible are easy, it is the middle ground that is difficult.
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27-06-2013, 09:27 PM
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What confuses people is the definition of wine tasting. I don't want to be a wine taster. All you get to to do is eat chese then spit it out.
Wine sampling is the real sport.
Barry
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27-06-2013, 09:31 PM
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Life is looking up!
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Wine is wasted on me, they all taste the same, more or less. Give me a good scotch, as I know a great scotch when I taste it. Which is really easy, as I get wasted on it
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27-06-2013, 09:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barrykgerdes
What confuses people is the definition of wine tasting. I don't want to be a wine taster. All you get to to do is eat chese then spit it out.
Wine sampling is the real sport.
Barry
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Wine tasting would be a sport, if they were made to swallow every other glass, eat cheese and see how far they could spit the wine that they did not swallow  .
Greg.
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28-06-2013, 07:38 AM
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Now it doesn't really seem credible that even experts can really differentiate between wines of different prices without seeing the label, but it isn't only the world of grape where this happens.
Take a look at random astrophotos online and see if you could tell which instrument took them, and on which mount!
Everyone knows a Tak is better than a Meade, right? That a Paramount is better than a Skywatcher. But if you see several photos of some particular deep sky object you won't be able to tell which was taken with the more expensive equipment.
If the stars are round, with no trailing the EQ6 will look like the Paramount
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