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Old 10-06-2013, 10:31 AM
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Rha m8

Still getting to know my RHA-FLI-STX combination, and managed to get a lazy hour of M8 data in, a couple of weeks ago.

Hopefully part of a much bigger project...but now I have some down time, and looking at the weather ...might have to take up knitting

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:45 AM
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The textures coming out in the central region around the hourglass are reminiscent of Fred's starless APOD was my initial impression. Lovely 3D feel even with only that much data.

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:59 AM
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Nice work Peter, good to see some more data from you and looking forward to the final result.

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Old 10-06-2013, 11:09 AM
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You have that set up working well, Peter.
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Old 10-06-2013, 12:01 PM
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You have that set up working well, Peter.
Thanks...nearly..but still a few tweaks to make

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Nice work Peter, good to see some more data from you and looking forward to the final result.

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Ta...could be bigger than Ben-Hur

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The textures coming out in the central region around the hourglass are reminiscent of Fred's starless APOD was my initial impression. Lovely 3D feel even with only that much data.

(Marc wil be in heaven )
As yes, Freddo's starless wonder.

Doing the math 5 hours would be the same flux down the pipe as 20 hours in, say a 6" refractor, then maybe I could claim "uber-deep" status to the data ..... wonder if it would be worth it
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Lovely detail and pinpoint star images, Peter-great work!
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:20 PM
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Lovely detail and pinpoint star images, Peter-great work!
Thanks Laurie....
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Doing the math 5 hours would be the same flux down the pipe as 20 hours in, say a 6" refractor, then maybe I could claim "uber-deep" status to the data ..... wonder if it would be worth it
And you can have one of these too
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:06 PM
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Very cute Mike... not sure about the relevance (if I went 5 hours on M8, I think it would look the same, just with less noise )...... plus I already have a perfectly serviceable "finger" image.

For interested bystanders, the attached "finger" enlargement is an oversampled crop from my RCOS14 image from some time ago...
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:36 PM
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It doesn't matter who has the best finger to give now anyway - unless you've got 100hrs from a 10" ala Rolf you're not being competitive
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Err?..it was the title of the image that was the relevant bit
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- unless you've got 100hrs from a 10" ala Rolf you're not being competitive
'aint that the truth

.... Rolf's efforts are indeed quite innovative and extraordinary
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God I wish I could take images like that and process them as well as you do. Beautiful M8 for a lazy 1 hours worth.

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My lazy 1 hr through a 102mm refractor... might need another 19 or 40...

(that's a 2 minute post-DSS edit... nothin' done, and looks crappy )
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Old 10-06-2013, 07:44 PM
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God I wish I could take images like that and process them as well as you do. Beautiful M8 for a lazy 1 hours worth.

Mark

Thank you very much Mark, but I'm sure you will be doing the same soon enough, it's a bit like computer programming, "learn how to program by programming"

As for the 1 hour exposure...if I said it was 4 hours with my AP155 Starfire
there might be some approving "oh-ah's"... but really it's all about flux and object brightness.

Simple arithmetic can show that my 12" gather's light 4x faster than my 6". So rather than struggle for 4 hours with the smaller scope I can get the same result with a larger one in 1/4 of the time. This point seems lost on some..particularly those with big ego's

Professional Astronomers use *very large* telescopes for very similar reasons (ie. lack of observing time)
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Very smooth Peter and you're definitely respecting the light! Look forward to the colour. Surprised you don't have an 8300 on that RH.

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Very smooth Peter and you're definitely respecting the light! Look forward to the colour. Surprised you don't have an 8300 on that RH.

Cheers, Marcus
Thanks Marcus... the light/shadow is a result of my slow discovery of how to use PixInsight...aye carrumba..heavy stuff...but getting there!

As for the STT8300...not a great match for the Honders, which I think likes deep, rather than small pixels.

The 8300 works better with the FSQ, (and oddly, at much longer focal lengths with the AO-8T) .... I'll put the RCOS back on the mount and do some hi-res galaxy imaging one day...but I'm having too much fun with the Honders at the moment.
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Impressive results for an hour of imaging Peter.

Are you working on a colour NB image of M8 as part of your bigger project??

I did a Hubble palette version last year. If the young grasshopper may make a suggestion to the Master, I reckon you might get some more definition around the core by using some sort of HDR compression (HDR Multiscale Transform worked for me in PI)

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Old 10-06-2013, 10:13 PM
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Impressive results for an hour of imaging Peter.
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I reckon you might get some more definition around the core by using some sort of HDR compression (HDR Multiscale Transform worked for me in PI)

DT
Ta...HDR Multiscale????

Streuth....I've only had the software for 48 hours and was flat-chat getting this (mono) image out

When it comes to PI ..I'm very much happy to concede *I'm* the grasshopper here
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Old 10-06-2013, 10:25 PM
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Ta...HDR Multiscale????

Streuth....I've only had the software for 48 hours and was flat-chat getting this (mono) image out

When it comes to PI ..I'm very much happy to concede *I'm* the grasshopper here
You'll be a PI convert in no time. Highly recommend Harry Page's Video Tutorials, as well as Warren Keller's DVD - the info on deconvolution was excellent.

HDRMT has 6 layers as a default, sometimes you need more layers, sometimes less. Haven't worked out why yet??? I think more worked for my M8.

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