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Old 08-05-2013, 09:42 PM
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What's happening with Photoshop

So it's moved to the cloud.

So we can't buy a copy any more but have to pay 20 dollars a month?

Is this correct or have I missed something?

I want to get in quickly and buy CS 6 if this is the case...been holding off for years..still have CS2

So is CS 6 the last version we can own outright?

Have I got it completely wrong?


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Old 08-05-2013, 10:25 PM
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I haven't checked sources myself, but I did read the same yesterday on another forum, so there may be truth in it. The timing would seem right based on past release dates.

IMHO, it will cause some users to seek alternatives. The last time I used Photoshop was over a decade ago. I use the Gimp now, but mainly because I run Linux as a desktop.
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Old 08-05-2013, 10:40 PM
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Yeah, I started a similar thread the other day:
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...d.php?t=106922
But its looking that way judging by the linked article...
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Old 09-05-2013, 03:39 PM
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I too only have CS2, and it serves me well, I wouldn't bother to up grade, there are plenty of other software products out there that will do just as well, if not better than CS. IMHO.

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Old 09-05-2013, 04:18 PM
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So it's moved to the cloud.

So we can't buy a copy any more but have to pay 20 dollars a month?
If I read the blurb correctly, if you don't already have a license key it's $49.99 a month.
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Old 09-05-2013, 04:45 PM
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If you don't have a license of PS CS6 then it'll be $19.99 per month on a 12 month plan (I think, the details are a bit sketchy)

Also the name "Creative Cloud" is pretty deceptive as the only thing that's done in the cloud is the license check, the program is still installed locally and all processing is still done locally (unlike a cloud app).

Meh, it's not like they've added anything "must have" to PS for a very long time.
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Old 09-05-2013, 07:56 PM
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Yeah, I'm rather disappointed by Adobe's new approach with subscriptions. This will indeed make it a challenge for the astro imager. I thoroughly enjoy using photoshop for astro work. So much flexibility and power to harness but justifying this against $20 a month subscription for Photoshop CC is a tall order. $50 for the full Creative Suite is ridiculous. I'll stick with CS5 for a while I suspect but some of the new features in CC do look great.
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Old 14-05-2013, 08:16 AM
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Well, there is PixInsight.
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Old 14-05-2013, 08:22 AM
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If you go with CS cloud it's about AUD $50/mnth. If you have a licence for CS6 Web or Production you pay $20/mnth for the first year. There is no more out right license key now. It's all on a monthly basis. The last key(s) I got were for CS6 suite. I now pay $20/month. TBH there is no massive improvement between CS5 and CS6. Even with CS4. But CS5 was more stable than CS4. The best value for money in term of new (usable) features at the time was CS3. Since then it's been 'idling' with a fresh coat of paint every year. I have PixInsight but I wouldn't compare it to PS. It's different.
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Old 14-05-2013, 09:06 AM
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And, try using PixInsight for general photo editing work -- good luck!

They each have their place.

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Old 15-05-2013, 11:18 AM
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Don't be fooled about the hype of some of the "new" features to Photoshop. They are only new TO Photoshop. Many features like object removal and debluring have been around for years in free packages like Image Analyzer. Even back in the Amiga days we had them, they were just another standard existing feature and its only because PS doesn't have them they make a big fuss years later when they add them. Even had FITS support on the Amiga.

So don't stress about PS. It's a handy tool but it doesn't have a single unique feature. There are other options on all platforms (Gimp, Image Magick, Image Analyzer, etc).
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Old 16-05-2013, 06:37 PM
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Well, finally updated from CS2 to CS6 this week. Saw that Adobe had removed CS6 from their site but it is still available through retail. Lucky I have school kids. Don't think I will need CS7, and by the time they get to CS8 I am sure they will be selling it through retail again.

Hey Adobe, tell me how do you sell a rental model through Officeworks again?
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Old 16-05-2013, 08:01 PM
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Although I’ve been using CS6 for a few months now, I think I might explore moving back to Corel and their photo application suite. They have a 30 day free trial right now which I may have a look at to see how easy it is to get back up to speed.

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Old 16-05-2013, 09:04 PM
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Looks like a shoot yourself in the foot move, Adobe have been gouging customers for years, particularly with regard to plugins for new model cameras, I know there will be some who will defend the obscene prices adobe charge, but I've always felt that the product was grossly overpriced and overly complex to use.

As Trevor says "lucky I have schoolkids", that seems to be the norm for most purchases.
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Old 16-05-2013, 09:21 PM
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You have to bear in mind that Photoshop was primarily written for professionals working in the graphics/photographic industry.

It is a biproduct of its seniority and professional use that it has filtered down to almost all photographic editing applications.

Adobe can charge what they can, because it is aimed at professionals.

They basically give away Elements for the mum and dad brigade to make minor edits to their family photographs and travel snapshots.

People who actually make a living out of photography aren't complaining. At the end of the day, it's an expense, and, likely tax deductible.

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Old 16-05-2013, 09:56 PM
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... I think I might explore moving back to Corel and their photo application suite.
Holey Smoke! I thought Corel was done and dusted. I have an early version on 3.5" floppy disks in the garage which from memory was compatible with Windows 3.1. Will investigate if its applicable for a discount upgrade if I can find the serial number!
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Old 16-05-2013, 10:18 PM
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You have to bear in mind that Photoshop was primarily written for professionals working in the graphics/photographic industry.

It is a biproduct of its seniority and professional use that it has filtered down to almost all photographic editing applications.

Adobe can charge what they can, because it is aimed at professionals.

They basically give away Elements for the mum and dad brigade to make minor edits to their family photographs and travel snapshots.

People who actually make a living out of photography aren't complaining. At the end of the day, it's an expense, and, likely tax deductible.

H
That about sums it up, problem is whats going to happen with university's and license fees? My copy's are well yer.. and thats how it should be for non-pro users, it blows my mind when people buy full retail copy's and update on a reg basis and there only home users. I do the same with auto cad, I only use it for fun and there's no way i'am forking out for a retail copy when i'am just playing around with ideas to pass the time.
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Old 17-05-2013, 09:46 AM
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Holey Smoke! I thought Corel was done and dusted. I have an early version on 3.5" floppy disks in the garage which from memory was compatible with Windows 3.1. Will investigate if its applicable for a discount upgrade if I can find the serial number!
Corel draw and its vector output. It was the biz at the time.
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Old 20-05-2013, 09:10 AM
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Hugely stupid idea and the jacked up prices for years has encourage side line behaviour. If a full copy was half the price it is and all the other types of ownership were half the price, they would sell millions more. I will never pay $20 a month for a license. This is just a wrought and sales will drop off as a result.

I got CS6 6 months ago and got it as an upgrade from CS3. I am thankful for that. Another greedy move from Adobe here.
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