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Old 08-02-2013, 11:38 AM
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Comet Lemmon, disconnected tail?

Hi,

Here's comet Lemmon from last night 07/02/2013, I was lucky to get it with cloud allowing an hour window.

I used the ED80 again without the baader fringe killer, hoping to get more faint tail. I was surprised once the images started coming up to see the tail seems to be disconnected, with a knot half way along the tail. The disconnected section seems to be moving of in a different direction.

Not sure whats going on here??

I've supplied two images, the stacked image and a false colour single frame too show a little more detail.

This comet sure is interesting!
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:06 PM
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Could it be some kind of parallax error?

Perhaps the two tails are in line with each other making it look like one tail with a blip in the middle?
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:15 PM
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Got a similar result last night (070213) myself.

Inverted view is heavily stretched.

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Old 08-02-2013, 12:18 PM
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Could it be some kind of parallax error?

Perhaps the two tails are in line with each other making it look like one tail with a blip in the middle?
Hi Sam,

Hmm don't know, need a comet expert.

Hoping someone with higher resolution gear imaged it last night. This would help sort things out.

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Old 08-02-2013, 12:21 PM
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Got a similar result last night (070213) myself.

Inverted view is heavily stretched.

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Thanks John!

Your image shows more detail, does appear to be a knot there. Also looks like it's not disconnected.

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Old 08-02-2013, 01:39 PM
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Nice images all round. Havnt seen it yet - damned light pollution and neighbours
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Old 08-02-2013, 01:50 PM
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Nice images all round. Havnt seen it yet - damned light pollution and neighbours
i agree the light pollution kills it for me as well
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:32 PM
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Nothing on the web about a disconnection event, but maybe you were the first to see it!
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Old 08-02-2013, 03:13 PM
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Nothing on the web about a disconnection event, but maybe you were the first to see it!
Here are a few links for other comets, describing the processes:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/st...ews/encke.html

http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/halebopp/disconnect/

http://www-ssc.igpp.ucla.edu/personn...lReconnect.pdf

http://www.stfc.ac.uk/News+and+Events/4831.aspx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9F8KsOs3ls

http://iopscience.iop.org/1538-4357/...1977.text.html

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Old 08-02-2013, 03:26 PM
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Nice images all round. Havnt seen it yet - damned light pollution and neighbours
Thanks Allan!

Hope you get to observve it soon.

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i agree the light pollution kills it for me as well
Ditto for you David!

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Nothing on the web about a disconnection event, but maybe you were the first to see it!
Thanks Morton!

I've emailed the image to Michael Mattiazzo, our southern comets man.
Hopefully he'll have a better idea.

Thanks for all that info!

The 2007 event with Comet Encke is amazing!

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Old 08-02-2013, 05:06 PM
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It looks like a chunk blew off or it had an outburst earlier and is moving away from that.

I imaged it extensively last night with both CDK17 and a DSLR lens setup.

I haven't processed it yet. I have 2 nights worth. I didn't notice that in the subs though.

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Old 08-02-2013, 06:31 PM
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Yep, it's a disconnection event, it's affected by the solar wind changing polarity, ie: the comet crossing the heliospheric current sheet.

Funnily enough, Terry Lovejoy captured one on his latest image of L4 PanStarrs too.

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Old 08-02-2013, 07:33 PM
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It looks like a chunk blew off or it had an outburst earlier and is moving away from that.

I imaged it extensively last night with both CDK17 and a DSLR lens setup.

I haven't processed it yet. I have 2 nights worth. I didn't notice that in the subs though.

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Thanks Greg!

Looking forward to your image.

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Yep, it's a disconnection event, it's affected by the solar wind changing polarity, ie: the comet crossing the heliospheric current sheet.

Funnily enough, Terry Lovejoy captured one on his latest image of L4 PanStarrs too.

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Thanks for that!

Nice to have confirmation.
These comets are keeping us on our toes!

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Old 08-02-2013, 10:53 PM
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Amazing capture Justin.

What exposure times did you use?

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Amazing capture Justin.

What exposure times did you use?

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Thanks Ross!

150 sec exposures.

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Stunning image Justin,

That is a most interesting phenomena, could a break off be caused by a large coronal mass ejection?

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Nice links... thanks.


It'll be interesting to see how the knot matures over time.

Great find, I bet experts are scratching their head wondering why they didn't catch the event.

OIC!
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Old 09-02-2013, 09:33 AM
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Stunning image Justin,

That is a most interesting phenomena, could a break off be caused by a large coronal mass ejection?

cheers
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Thanks Oretis!

Don't think there's been any mass ejections recently, but solar wind related.

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Nice links... thanks.


It'll be interesting to see how the knot matures over time.

Great find, I bet experts are scratching their head wondering why they didn't catch the event.

OIC!
Thanks OIC!

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