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Old 14-01-2013, 12:10 PM
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fingers crossed the equipment isnt too damaged. Did they do any back burning around the complex?
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Old 14-01-2013, 12:14 PM
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fingers crossed the equipment isnt too damaged. Did they do any back burning around the complex?
Normally being National Park, you can't.

I wonder how airtight those domes are. You can image a lot of smoke soot etc trying to find its way in.
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Old 14-01-2013, 12:18 PM
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i live near the royal national park in sydney and they do back burning every year.
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Old 14-01-2013, 12:26 PM
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Now would be a good time to cut some stuff down; just for safety of course.... you know... those trees could have serious structural integrity issues and would be an OH&S risk after those fires
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Old 14-01-2013, 12:37 PM
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Now would be a good time to cut some stuff down; just for safety of course.... you know... those trees could have serious structural integrity issues and would be an OH&S risk after those fires
No, I would have thought reduction measures over the last 2-3 winters -above average rainfall in the area- would be a good time.

I know people out here have been concerned about the fuel in "The Park" for some time.
Spot over comes from elsewhere!

The SSO site was as well prepared as IT could be.
I would say "Well done to the people involved in this after Stromlo". This is probably why so much survived.
However, Does SSO still have its Fire Brigade? It had one in the early 00's.

The observatory is now relatively safe. There are many people homeless now including some of our astro-colleques I believe.
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Old 14-01-2013, 01:10 PM
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The Australian just posted this story and time lapse footage of the fire approaching

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-d...-1226553143005
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Old 14-01-2013, 01:46 PM
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News 24 now reports that 28 properties have been destroyed. This includes Rob McNaughts home according to a report earlier today.
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Old 14-01-2013, 02:10 PM
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News 24 now reports that 28 properties have been destroyed. This includes Rob McNaughts home according to a report earlier today.
Hi Terry,

Rob reported yesterday that he and Tanya evacuated with their dogs and that the
fire passed through their property.

So if it transpires that they lost the house, that is sad to hear.

As many of the other staff have houses near the Observatory, then a lot of them
will be personally affected.

Rob came across yesterday as very confident that the AAT would come out fine.
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in the Uppsala office and the 2.3m building. The AAT should be unaffected as it is
a very secure and well defended building. It is in fact the evacuation area on
the mountain.
I note on the RFS web site some scrub grass fires under control up your way at
Thunderbolts Mtn and Kings Gap.
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Old 14-01-2013, 02:23 PM
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ABC News 24 video report from helicopter -
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-01-1...ontrol/4463876
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Old 14-01-2013, 02:34 PM
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Well done to all who were involved in controlling this bushfire and helping to save the structures that make up this wonderful complex.
Have a look at the images at this site https://www.facebook.com/nswrfs . Viewed through my eyes as a 10 year WA VFS member, it looks as though the out buildings were mostly lost by ember attack and not direct flame, typical of older designs. The grassed and paved areas seemed to have done their job well, and even the tree'd areas. You will always get a more intense and fast fire running up hill which is evedent in these images. The clearing on this site obviously appears to have been sufficient (WA FESA recomendations is 20m around structures)
Again well done all and to the staff, I hope you are up and running before to long.
RIP to the Victorian DSE firefighter who died in Tasmania
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Old 14-01-2013, 02:36 PM
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ANU Press Release from 13:00 today -
http://news.anu.edu.au/2013/01/08/fi...-and-students/
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Old 14-01-2013, 03:01 PM
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Viewed through my eyes as a 10 year WA VFS member, it looks as though the out buildings were mostly lost by ember attack and not direct flame, typical of older designs. The grassed and paved areas seemed to have done their job well, and even the tree'd areas. You will always get a more intense and fast fire running up hill which is evedent in these images.
Hi Wade,

Looking at the couple of seconds of video on ABC News 24, it appears as if the fire has
raced up the south-west side, which was to be expected, as that is the side the
fire originated from and that the steepness of the ridge itself may have acted
as a shield for the observatory site on the top. As seen in the dramatic photo yesterday,
a lot of the heat and smoke of the fire may have been directed nearly vertically
by the time it got to the top of the ridge. The trees at the top and on the
eastern side look relatively little affected.

Indeed, the structures that have been reported lost were mostly quite old and
it will probably transpire they succumbed to ember attack.

There is no way you would have wanted to be up there at the time with potentially
unsurvivable radiant energy if you were in the line of sight, but structures such
as the Lodge might have been defendable if one had been unlucky enough to
have been stuck in it. All of them had fire hoses that may have been sufficient
to put out ember attack spot fires if you had the misfortune to find yourself
faced with the challenge.

The building code has moved on and hopefully the replacements for buildings
such as the Lodge will also be a more comfortable and pleasant place for astronomers
and staff to rest. The Lodge wasn't something many looked forward to spending more
than a night in.


Sad to hear of the loss of life for the Victorian firefighter in Tasmania.

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Old 14-01-2013, 03:01 PM
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i bet some idiot started this fire.
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Old 14-01-2013, 03:02 PM
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I have been listening for news on the radio. It will take some time to repair the damage after the assessment is completed. Lots of people have lost their homes in the areas burnt out by this bushfire.
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Old 14-01-2013, 03:15 PM
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Hi Terry,

Rob reported yesterday that he and Tanya evacuated with their dogs and that the
fire passed through their property.

So if it transpires that they lost the house, that is sad to hear.

As many of the other staff have houses near the Observatory, then a lot of them
will be personally affected.

Rob came across yesterday as very confident that the AAT would come out fine.


I note on the RFS web site some scrub grass fires under control up your way at
Thunderbolts Mtn and Kings Gap.
The fires near us aren't to bad. It is only about 22 deg today and rained last night.
Clearly lots of houses lost at Coona with lots of personal astro gear in them. There will be lots of rebuilding to do.
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Old 14-01-2013, 04:06 PM
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So sad to hear Rob McNaught has lost his home, although thankful to hear everyone evacuated safely.
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Old 14-01-2013, 06:52 PM
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i bet some idiot started this fire.
We shouldn't just assume the worst!
The RFS reports it was a lightening strike.
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Old 14-01-2013, 07:46 PM
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the news also reported lightning strike...sorry to here the loss off property,must be absolutly gut wrenching....good to see no loss of life.
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Old 14-01-2013, 11:28 PM
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Donna Burton on Facebook 3 hours ago -
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Hi All we are okay no status on ponies, chickens or cows but house damaged and saved by passing firefighter friend at 3 am looking at at least 2 more days before we return home
Thanks for all your thoughts, prayers and notes of support
Donna and Chris live close to the observatory.
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Old 14-01-2013, 11:32 PM
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Has anyone heard from Steve Lee?

The Lees are far enough back down the Timor Rd away from Sidings Springs that
hopefully the fire didn't reach that far.
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