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Old 29-12-2012, 12:29 PM
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For me, the important thing is to maintain your own standards and don't expect anything in return. That way you can only be pleasantly rewarded.
VERY pertinent and true!
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Old 29-12-2012, 12:31 PM
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Old 29-12-2012, 12:34 PM
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Old 29-12-2012, 12:35 PM
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Old 29-12-2012, 12:59 PM
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There seems to be a lot less manners in cities and crowds compared to smaller towns and communities. In small towns people tend to know each other and wave at everyone, a habit that's hard to break and somewhat tiring when moving to the big smoke
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Old 29-12-2012, 01:25 PM
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Sounds like oldfartitis to me. Can remember the same old whinges about the younger generation and slips in standards being trotted out when I was a little tacker (er, minus the iPod & texting refs!).

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Perhaps it is just the area I live in, or visit, but I generally find that there are MORE polite people than impolite.
Its just that its the Impolite ones that Bug you and stick in your memory.
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My experience too.

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For me, the important thing is to maintain your own standards and don't expect anything in return. That way you can only be pleasantly rewarded.
Well said Allan! Hehe, although I'm always extra polite to ill-mannered people - try it, it confuses them!

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Old 29-12-2012, 01:27 PM
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Manners are learnt from an early age and children will always learn from their parents. I was taught at an early age and manners are now second nature to me.

A please or a thankyou doesn't cost anything and takes but a second. I still send thankyou letters or emails to people who have given me gifts or sent me things. It only takes a minute or two to say something has arrived safely and thank them.

I like to treat people how I like to be treated myself, if they so choose to be rude or nasty to me then I just let them be and talk to someone else or take future business elsewhere.

Cheers all and have a great new year.
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Old 29-12-2012, 02:37 PM
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I have to admit in all my sales here, NOT ONE buyer has ever even said they received their item, let alone a thank you or comment.
Hi Lewis,
I could have sworn I sent you a PM!
I honestly thought I had but I have just looked thru my sent items box and there is no PM there
I do apologise profusely for the lack of reply.
Everyone(there are many!) that I have previously dealt with in Icetrade has always received a thank you message when the item has arrived.
I am buggered if I know how I missed sending you one. Only thing I can guess I was at work(where you sent the item) and got distracted, thought I had hit send but didn't and then closed the window
Again, my apologies.

If it is worth anything now, many thanks for ML
It is now living quite happily on a small Stellarvue 70ED and is a massive improvement over the standard focuser which was made worse by abuse from the SV70ED's previous owner(s)(though they deny any knowledge of damage )

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Old 29-12-2012, 02:41 PM
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While we're at it, let's not forget to thank Mike and Terry for another great year of running this website. Plus all the moderators of course!

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Old 29-12-2012, 04:15 PM
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Chivalry is dead - thank christ.

I can't understand why a small portion of men still trip over themselves to hold doors open or give up their seats on public transport for thankless women. I've worked in a major city for nearly 11 years, and it took me only a few unacknowledged gestures to throw in the towel. Now I hold doors only for women who are friends, only give up my seat for pregnant or elderly women and don't even bother smiling at or greeting unknown women in my office. We're living in a new era gentlemen.
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Old 29-12-2012, 04:26 PM
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You seen to have forgotten about me , my mate ? the semi apo filter that I loaned you ? I thanked you for its safe return ...
I make a point thanking every person that I have got gear off here at IIS ( and its way to much gear ) , it costs nothing , shame some people forget .
Yes , and thanks Mike and all the moderators for putting up with me ....
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Just a general observation - where has THANK YOU gone from our society? It's not just the teenagers - I find it more in older adults!

Have we just become a faceless consumer society where even simple manners like Thank You fall by the wayside?

I have to admit in all my sales here, NOT ONE buyer has ever even said they received their item, let alone a thank you or comment. Even my sales on Fleabay etc are the same, regardless of where the item goes.

Sad how our society is heading now. We expect, with no return manners.
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Old 29-12-2012, 04:53 PM
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Brian, well, you go without saying - you've been downright great since day one for me here - ever helpful, trusting... a true mate. So things go without saying.

Damn it, someone hand me the box of Kleenex...
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Old 29-12-2012, 05:04 PM
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Cant have the kleanex's mate , they are with me ...
Thanks Lewis ..
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Old 29-12-2012, 05:05 PM
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And chivalry is WELL and truly dead too. Rarely do I see men opening doors for ladies (and have been scorned at by obviously extreme feminist women I have done it for!)
Hey, hey, not all of us are like that! I'm a woman who still appreciates a door held open for me, and I usually say thank you to the door holder as I pass, too, to let them know that I appreciate them being thoughtful. I don't understand those women who think its an insult either, so please don't tar us all with the same brush.

And as for not saying thank you on the forums, may I direct you to my question here just yesterday (before you posted this one)?

But the sentiment is something I will try to keep in mind, seeing how I was complaining about a very similar thing not long ago in another place.
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Old 29-12-2012, 05:19 PM
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Manners are still out there, but there are will always be a few who will be less than courteous (maybe they've had a bad day, distracted or just ignorant, who knows?).

I worked in the service industry for several years and we had the following drummed in to us: 'Do something positive and the passenger will tell one other person; do something negative and they will inform ten others.' The point being, the average person will always remember the negative over the good.

Personally, I've mostly (would like to say always but...) found that if I'm pleasant, polite and open then these traits are reciprocated.
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Old 29-12-2012, 05:21 PM
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Chivalry is dead - thank christ.

I can't understand why a small portion of men still trip over themselves to hold doors open or give up their seats on public transport for thankless women. I've worked in a major city for nearly 11 years, and it took me only a few unacknowledged gestures to throw in the towel. Now I hold doors only for women who are friends, only give up my seat for pregnant or elderly women and don't even bother smiling at or greeting unknown women in my office. We're living in a new era gentlemen.
Now, sadly, that is just what some of us are talking about.

There are many of us, of a certain age, brought up by parents who could see how chivalry, manners, and politeness accompanied by a smile, would make life so much more pleasant for everyone.
And that is how it has been for many of us for many years.

We are not a small portion, we are a quiet, but not silent, majority who wish that we could preserve that which has served us well for a long time.

Also sad, nostalgia ain't what it used to be...

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Old 29-12-2012, 05:33 PM
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There are many of us, of a certain age, brought up by parents who could see how chivalry, manners, and politeness accompanied by a smile, would make life so much more pleasant for everyone.
Manners and politeness - I agree with you 100%. I just don't go out of my way to do anything for unappreciative people.

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We are not a small portion, we are a quiet, but not silent, majority who wish that we could preserve that which has served us well for a long time.
In my big-city experience, men like you are in the minority.

The world has changed. Women don't want this treatment any more - that is clearly self-evident by their reaction to it.
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Old 29-12-2012, 05:48 PM
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I can remember the day's when a man walking down the street ... if he had a hat on ... he would ' tip ' it as a woman walked by ... and say words like ... ' how do you do ' or ... ' good morning ' .

even ... opening a door for a lady when entering a building .... ladies first .. then the man followed.

I often saw this happening when I was a ' wee little boy ' of 4 and 5 years old.

Flash ..!!
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Old 29-12-2012, 06:27 PM
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I can remember the day's when a man walking down the street ... if he had a hat on ... he would ' tip ' it as a woman walked by ... and say words like ... ' how do you do ' or ... ' good morning ' .

even ... opening a door for a lady when entering a building .... ladies first .. then the man followed.

I often saw this happening when I was a ' wee little boy ' of 4 and 5 years old.

Flash ..!!
I remember all this too, Flash. A man always walked down stairs in front of a lady, too-just in case she slipped and fell!
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Old 29-12-2012, 06:59 PM
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I remember all this too, Flash. A man always walked down stairs in front of a lady, too-just in case she slipped and fell!
And walked on the outside of the pavement to protect the lady from being splashed!
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