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Old 11-11-2012, 11:10 PM
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Flying in tomorrow. Really dont know whether we'll be beachside Wednesday or doing a midnight run inland
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:09 AM
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Scattered cloud about this morning with some showers. Saw the sun several times, which had a really nice prominence on it. At 635-645 there were good breaks. Trade winds are blowing again this generates the cloud on out to see. The high pressure ridge while still present hhas weakened to allow the trade winds to blow from the south east.

I'll report again tomorrow.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:25 AM
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Hey Paul can you see the Kuranda Range from where you are and is it clear or covered in cloud, we are taking the train up to Kuranda and it is stopping at Red Bluff lookout for an hour for the Eclipse
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:37 AM
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webcams for around 6.38am and sky clarity from last night/morning
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:42 AM
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Thumbs down Think twice about driving inland

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Flying in tomorrow. Really dont know whether we'll be beachside Wednesday or doing a midnight run inland
I know others on this forum have warned of the poor road conditions inland in far North Queensland but I fell obliged to point out the dangers to our international visitors.

Most roads in this region are barely graded dirt roads often only wide enough for one vehicle. They are used infrequently and are designed for only a few vehicles oer day. They will likely not have been graded since the beginning of the dry season so will be quite rough. There is a lot of roadworks presently before the wet season sets in and If there is any rain at all they will turn quickly to mud slides that with any traffic at all will become impassable.
Plus to get from Cairns to an inland eclipse viewing site will take at least 4-5 hours in ideal conditions.

Attending to drive on any of these inland roads, even the well graded main road, at night is madness. You will put yourself at grave risk and also risk the lives of others who have to attempt your rescue. It is simply irresponsible.

A single road accident or breakdown or bogged vehicle will close these roads. Given the number of uninformed visitors who will, despite the warnings, attempt driving on these roads there is a very high likelihood of this happening.

If you must go inland, prepare well and go today with adequate supplies to camp out for at least 2 nights.

Otherwise, stay on the coast!

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Old 12-11-2012, 01:34 PM
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I echo the comments about needing luck, enjoying whatever you get and not travelling far inland (anywhere off the sealed roads) without being *very* well prepared. But I love watching the weather, which is what this thread is for, so I'll keep going .

The family meteorologist is now staying with us, so these comments are marginally better informed, but still my own amateur assesment of conditions.

While the low pressure trough has moved offshore, there is a strong pressure gradient between it and the high pressure ridge forming along the coast, which is driving the strong winds today. And the effect of the trough is still lingering, with instability at higher altitudes combined with the strong easterly winds against the ranges allowing the significant cloud formation and heavy showers last night and this morning.

Sunday morning was a bit of an anomaly, with clear sky behind the trough before the easterly conditions re-established themselves afterwards. That's not what Wednesday morning will be like.

The pressure gradient should now flatten out a little over the next two days, so the wind on Wednesday will not be like today, but you can still expect some wind during the day. Not sure how much the calming effect overnight will have for eclipse morning.

As the trough moves properly away and the high pressure builds, the subsidence associated with that helps put a bit of a lid on the cloud formation, reducing the 'scattered showers' of this morning, to just 'isolated showers' by Wednesday. It should also mean that cloud extends inland less on Wednesday morning than it has today.

60km inland which as far as you can travel on sealed roads (if you can get past hoardes of others attempting the same thing) is not as far west as would be ideal, but in a stable easterly pattern it has been far enough to make a difference. That's what I'm betting on, so heading on a scouting trip now and will head inland Tuesday evening to setup. Mt Carbine is often not far enough, and many days is worse than the coast.

Since there's no guarantees in eclipse chasing. I think a reasonable estimate of the odds goes like this..

The dice will be rolled at midnight. If you're on the coast, you need it to show a 1 or 2 for clear skies, with 3 and 4 giving you progressively cloudier conditions but some view. If you're inland a 2,3,4 and even a 5 should give you a clear view. But of course you could still get unlucky with a 1 or 6!


Whether your particular location gets the lucky roll of the dice on Wednesday morning, nobody can say and nobody and no computer model will be able to say any more than that even Tuesday night. If you look at a satellite image around 5am you may be able to see which way the dice is loaded. But by then it'll be too late to move.

So we're all going to need luck! Hope you get some!

Phil
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Old 12-11-2012, 02:17 PM
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Dimbulah west of Mareeba is a good 90 km inland and is sealed all the way.
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Old 12-11-2012, 03:19 PM
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Eclipse

Arriving in Cairns tomorrow. The weather does not look good. I decided not to take my equipment and just watch whatever is visible. I will be spending a week afterwards driving to Townsville and just relaxing
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Old 12-11-2012, 05:55 PM
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Dimbulah west of Mareeba is a good 90 km inland and is sealed all the way.
It might be out of the totality path though. Not by much.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:00 PM
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Had a look at various locations all week and weather and I have a gut feeling that (as of now) Cairns and coast to Port Douglas might actually be the best bet. 30-40% clouds. Out west seems worse (around Mt Carbine) and south east Mareeba looks like it might have a patch of clouds developing and hanging in between the range and the coast. Wind hasn't changed all week SE. So far I'll still stay in cairns. Leaving tomorrow morning. Good luck to all.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:27 PM
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Flying in tonight and will probably take my chances in Cairns (Trinity Beach).
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:40 PM
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suppose to be raining on wednesday. Bought my solar glasses for nothing
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:13 PM
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Mt Carbine webcam down due to Skymesh outage http://t.co/2Ycl6dYZ tomorrow morning images the most important #eclipse2012
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:15 PM
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Currently clear sunshine at Mary farms just to the south of Mt Carbine with a patch of cloud to the north east while patchy scuddy cloud here at Kewarra beach in cairns.
My inlaws have property at Mary farms so I can give you some up to the minute info as we also have Internet connection there as well, will be heading up tomorrow arvo if anyone would like to know.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:02 PM
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Well for my part I am staying here in Edmonton.
I have 20 or so people joining me for some astronomy the night before and the eclipse the next morning.
In any case I am looking forward to catching up with some IIS'ers on the Wednesday night up at Palm cove :-)
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:42 PM
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From BOM: Forecast for Wednesday
Isolated showers about the coast and ranges. Fine well inland. Solar Eclipse: Brief light shower about the coast, ranges and southern Tablelands. Cloudy periods about the coast, ranges and southern Tablelands, tending to overcast south of Cairns. Mostly sunny inland west of a line Mount Garnet - Mareeba - Cape Melville.
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Old 12-11-2012, 11:50 PM
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Plus to get from Cairns to an inland eclipse viewing site will take at least 4-5 hours in ideal conditions.

Attending to drive on any of these inland roads, even the well graded main road, at night is madness. You will put yourself at grave risk and also risk the lives of others who have to attempt your rescue. It is simply irresponsible.

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Otherwise, stay on the coast!

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Great advice Brucel! Thanks

Reached from Kuala Lumpur last night, and arrived in Cairns this morning.

I drove from Cairns, all the way to Port Douglas this afternoon, and was greeted with high winds and occasional rain.

My mind was almost set to go inland, but your advice is very logical.

I'll take my chances in the coastal area, maybe at Ellis Beach.
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Old 13-11-2012, 03:02 AM
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There are three routes inland from Cairns, all are sealed roads. I would not recommend the Gillies range, but both the Kuranda (Cairns)and Rex (Port Douglas) are both quite drivable and will get you past the range within two hours even at 50 KM an hour. Either will see you at 30 to 50 km from the coast within 2/3 hrs quite easily, I travel both regularly and can get from Cairns to Mt Carbine within two hrs doing under the speed limit. Mareeba is an easy 40-50 minute drive from The Smithfield roundabout. From there you can go N. W or S

Sheesh there is even white lines and reflecter post's all the way This pic is from a good 150 km north of Mt Carbine, sealed rd all the way to Laura http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/824/mapoon108.jpg/
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Old 13-11-2012, 06:14 AM
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keep an eye on these cameras http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/Traffic-ca...on=Far%20North

The main one would be Caravonica, the camera is looking south, so keep an eye on the right lane, that lane heads north towards Smithfield roundabout
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Old 13-11-2012, 07:00 AM
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Thats a pretty fair bit of road Jeff,so you guys live local,wheres the best chance of a decent view going to be coast or inland?
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