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Old 10-11-2012, 05:51 PM
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That's why people need to watch some youtube vids before playing with W8...

All normal apps like word and web browsing is done on a normal windows desktop... All they did was expand the start button to become an elaborate launch screen...

Desktop, laptop, tablet, phone... all using the one OS is genius...

Even a laptop with windows 8 drivers that use the touchpad like a touchscreen is great...

I have a new budget asus laptop that had W7 but now upgraded to W8 with SSD and 8gig ram... Boots in 38sec (with all apps and antivirus installed)...

I showed my partner and her mother and they were both sold on W8 in 60sec...
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:51 PM
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Individual, resizable and movable windows with menu systems seem to have dissapeared and been replaced by simplified pop up menus, tabs and non customizable windows.
You can still have several windows open at once and resize them so all are visible on the desktop and the resized windows all have their menu bars so not sure what the problem is? Besides the differences I have outlined in previous posts e.g. no start button and multiple windows not being shown on the task bar etc, everything is the same, you just have more options now. Yes the touch screens is a good item to have with win 8 on a PC but not essential as you can just use the mouse instead.

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Old 10-11-2012, 08:34 PM
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I have no problem with regular apps, however some of the apps, like IE10, music, video etc. are tablet style. Once I get IE10 onto the desktop, it runs in the regular fashion. I have not found an easy way to get apps from metro start to the desktop. I have been going to the desktop and selecting "Add Shortcut" by right clicking on the desktop and searching for the app. There must be an easier method?
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:44 PM
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I have no problem with regular apps, however some of the apps, like IE10, music, video etc. are tablet style. Once I get IE10 onto the desktop, it runs in the regular fashion. I have not found an easy way to get apps from metro start to the desktop. I have been going to the desktop and selecting "Add Shortcut" by right clicking on the desktop and searching for the app. There must be an easier method?
Right mouse click on the movie and click on play with windows media player and it opens as normal. Same with pics, just right mouse click, preview and it opens in a small window. I start IE10 from the task bar (quick start icon) and its normal in use. You can set these by opening the start menu window, right click on the icon and a menu bar will rise from the bottom then choose pin to taskbar on the LHS. It will then be accessible from the desktop and run as per normal. Also if you use the metro app form simply place the cursor in the top hand corner and you can jump between program windows just as easily as having them all open on the desk top. The corners are the key to getting windows 8 working for you and all 4 corners now have a function, just use your mouse and explore.

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Old 11-11-2012, 10:51 AM
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Everybody missing the start button should have a look at Classic Shell.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:22 PM
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Windows 8 integrates touch screen technology, tablets, mobile phones and other media technology. Microsoft had to do something to keep abreast with new technology. Some of us do not require touch screen technology, but it seems to be the future. It will be interesting to see what direction the next Windows will take.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:37 PM
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Touch screens have been around for quite a while now. Very useful in a kiosk mode.
Don't think they would be much good for photo retouching or restoration, CAD or other serious work. You will need an ample supply of Windex on your desk.
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Old 11-11-2012, 04:25 PM
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Gee i,m glad i still run XP on all our machines.

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Old 12-11-2012, 06:12 PM
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Gee i,m glad i still run XP on all our machines.

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Me too. Operating system software should be something to manage your computer and to start other applications software. Not something you have to learn every couple years.
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Old 12-11-2012, 06:14 PM
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Gee i,m glad i still run XP on all our machines.

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Win7's pretty cool. Nice move from XP. Not that XP is bad but you get used very quickly to 7 and its perks. And all your astro stuff will run on it. I reckon it's a little more stable than XP.
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Old 13-11-2012, 09:07 AM
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Wife's laptop is starting to misbehave (it had a few virii and MANY spybots, which I removed. Thanks Miss 4 for your online game browsing ) and I had to replace the RAM. It's 5 years old ASUS, running Pista...errr, I meant Vista

VERY tempted to throw Win 8 onto it for her. Or XP.... I have original XP discs still (full install).

I LOVE Win 7 (it's XP on rails) and doubt I personally will go 8 for many years - until all the programs get workable drivers etc anyway.
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Old 20-11-2012, 03:47 PM
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Interesting evaluation of Windows 8 usability: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html
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Old 20-11-2012, 03:57 PM
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Me too. Operating system software should be something to manage your computer and to start other applications software. Not something you have to learn every couple years.
Couldn't agree more. It's about time MS separated the underlying OS from the user interface. Then they could come out with different UI and all the drivers etc would not have to keep changing. I would have thought that after 30+ years the basic OS should be fairly robust and stable by now.
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Pretty well backs up what I have been saying.
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Old 20-11-2012, 07:22 PM
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Interesting evaluation of Windows 8 usability: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/windows-8.html
Hmmm don't seem to be having any of these problems and see most of this report as complete nonsense. There is nothing you can do on win7 that cannot be done in win8. As for the steep learning curve, it took 2 days for me to be very comfortable with the platform both on PC and Tablet, who were they using to test win 8, Mac OS users???. If you think about this win 8 is available on PC, tablet and phone, how much will that shorten the learning curve? You only have to deal with a single OS not 2 or 3 and its just windows 7 without a start button that's all. Multiple windows can easily be run in win8 (just like win 7) see my post below (#62). The charms cannot be forgotten as you have to use them to turn the machine off, pretty hard to overlook that. As for the rest of the rest such as the tiles, that's just been presented in a way to make it look confusing. Most tiles have a small title telling you what they are e.g. desktop and those that don't simply require you to place the cursor on it which will name the tile and give you options besides the fact that you also choose which tiles are displayed and should know what they do. As for the buttons being flat well analog is dead in just about every way but I guess old habits die hard for some. If a flat icon says power off guess what that means, oh no wait it's not 3D .
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Old 23-11-2012, 07:13 PM
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Looks like Christmas came early for people who wanted to scoop up a free copy of Windows 8 Pro.

Link to Article

It works........
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Old 23-11-2012, 10:10 PM
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Well I tested it completely and I hate it I think it will be fine on a tablet or phone but not on a PC. They should be releasing it for tablets and phones and keep Win7 for the PC. That's my opinion and my 2c worth I think it will flop on PC's and I can't see business buying it at all.
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Old 23-11-2012, 10:46 PM
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Let's hope there will be an early service pack to remedy the concerns of most users, Mark excepted...
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Old 24-11-2012, 01:20 PM
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let's hope there will be an early service pack to remedy the concerns of most users, mark excepted...:p
Happily so . I hate it when people trash something just because its different to what they are used to. Oh and update one installed last week .

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Old 24-11-2012, 01:33 PM
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Well I tested it completely and I hate it I think it will be fine on a tablet or phone but not on a PC. They should be releasing it for tablets and phones and keep Win7 for the PC. That's my opinion and my 2c worth I think it will flop on PC's and I can't see business buying it at all.
Guess again. We gave Vista a big miss and stayed with XP until win 7 was released. Now we are about to install win 8 on 2000 odd computers in the coming weeks so at least one business is buying it and I am sure there will be many others especially as the old win7 program disks become harder to get and become less and less supported. Our techs have been through all the Microsoft courses and are happy they can run the entire network on win 8 without any dramas, it's the future and all the kids will be learning on win 8 so there will be a huge ground swell from the bottom up. Can't see what all the fuss is about really, just click on the desktop tile and you are back in the win 7 environment.

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