Job Uncertainy - Page 4

multiweb (Marc) · #61 04-09-2012, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blink138

i think thats crap marc......... read flashs post a couple up "no frontline jobs etc......" it was a blatant lie to get elected and working on the premis that the general public have the long term memory of a goldfish.... well...
it will be a taste of whats going to happen if jug ears gets in i reckon!
pat

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Originally Posted by supernova1965

Tell that to the people that were finally getting the treatment they badly need I am in the middle of trying to get a diagnosis of possible MS or MD and things were going well up until now it scares me what will happen now with trying to find out what the problem is. Health isn't something that has jobs for the boys every job in the health system is needed.

I thought it was middle management positions that were being culled, not the front line jobs i.e doctors, nurses etc... Maybe too much non critical staff inflating costs. Private sectors has the same kind of culling when hard times come around. Restructuring will be the answer in the long term. The main problem with QLD seem to be people from remote outback not having adequate access to good service though.

AndrewJ · #62 04-09-2012, 08:57 AM

Gday Pat

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well paul there has never been a more true adage than "if you pay peanuts you get monkeys"

Or conversely,
if the clients only have peanuts to spend,
they can only afford monkeys.
I think the problem is more associated with the fact we no longer have the money to afford all the systems we want the govt to provide.
The downward wage pressure that has been applied to the unskilled workforces recently is simply moving higher up the foodchain.

Andrew

multiweb (Marc) · #63 04-09-2012, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ

I think the problem is more associated with the fact we no longer have the money to afford all the systems we want the govt to provide.

This major Payroll stuff up sealed the deal too. What a disaster.

AndrewJ · #64 04-09-2012, 01:01 PM

Gday Marc

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This major Payroll stuff up sealed the deal too. What a disaster.

Lets see, we can swap you

one desal plant
one Myki ticket system
one smartmeter rollout
neverending unfunded public servant superannuation/pension

if you are interested.
You have to remember, for every stuffup,
someone else is profiting

Andrew

And today i hear the Vic Govt is killing off the solar feedback tariffs
from 25c to 8c.
Nothing like getting a critical mass hooked in and then
cutting em off at the knees.

multiweb (Marc) · #65 04-09-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ

neverending unfunded public servant superannuation/pension

Yep $140 billion now. I can already see the vultures circling my SMSF.

casstony · #66 04-09-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ

Gday Marc
Lets see, we can swap you

one desal plant
one Myki ticket system
one smartmeter rollout
neverending unfunded public servant superannuation/pension
.

You forgot the North/South pipeline Andrew

.

No political party has a good balance of socially and finacially responsibile policies, such that we alternate between shooting the plebs and running up debt. How many of us saved money in the boom to cushion the coming bust - the governments sure didn't - they should be rolling in cash right now.

AndrewJ · #67 04-09-2012, 02:43 PM

Gday Tony

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the governments sure didn't - they should be rolling in cash right now.

They are,
you just have to be in the high rollers club to see it.

As i mentioned earlier,
bigscale "stuffups" always means someone makes a profit.

Andrew

Liz · #68 04-09-2012, 06:46 PM

... another 200 jobs to go up here, including a large majority of nurses. Am not sure how this can be achieved without closing beds???

Hoping my job is OK at this stage.

astroron (Ron) · #69 04-09-2012, 07:02 PM

Hi Liz, I hope you keep your Job, Best of luck.
Cheers

Barrykgerdes · #70 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ

one smartmeter rollout
neverending unfunded public servant superannuation/pension

.

I love it. I made sure I was on it in 1967. While others were leaving and cashing in I stayed with the CPS. Now I am laughing all the way to the bank. Been collecting now for 22 years. never been so well off!

Hard luck all you suckers who pay to keep me in clover.

Barry

brian nordstrom (As avatar) · #71 04-09-2012, 07:19 PM

My word Liz , this sort of cost cutting happened in NZ about 10 years ago , my partener at the time is a nurse and she got the chop as well ,,,

..
But its ok , she was offered a position in Rotorua , but we lived in Whangarei , 700km's away , just like that the powers that be expected us to spend $1000's shifting because some bean counter thought it was the way to go ,, man it SUX.. I can see OZ going down the same parth NZ took back then , its WRONG!

.
Needless to say our relationship , and our kids suffered badly , but the powers that be

did not count that into their schemes .$$$$$$ .
Brian.

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Originally Posted by Liz

... another 200 jobs to go up here, including a large majority of nurses. Am not sure how this can be achieved without closing beds???

Hoping my job is OK at this stage.

Stardrifter_WA · #72 04-09-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by casstony

You forgot the North/South pipeline Andrew

.

No political party has a good balance of socially and finacially responsibile policies, such that we alternate between shooting the plebs and running up debt. How many of us saved money in the boom to cushion the coming bust - the governments sure didn't - they should be rolling in cash right now.

That's probably correct. Furthermore, we have been living beyond our means for some time and it was inevitable that we would have to pay. It appears that we have, or are, reaching that point. The great GFC isn't in the past, we are still in it and we still have a way to go, maybe decades probably before we truly see the end of it.

Governments, like households, cannot keep racking up debt because, at some point it has to be paid back, or the interest alone exceeds our ability to pay it back. Many countries around the globe, including the US are reaching the point where the cost of servicing the loan is greater than GDP. Take Greece for instance, which currently stands at approximately 165%. If you owed 165% more than you earned, what then? And they are far from being orphans, as there are many countries facing that very dilemma.

Its scary really as global demand is reaching the point where we will not be able to meet that demand, let alone pay for it. Take China and motor vehicles, for instance; just imagine if China's standard of living continues to increase and the 1.3 billion population reaches the same level of motor vehicle ownership as western countries, where will all the fuel come from? As it is, China's demand for oil is pushing fuel prices ever higher, thus fuelling inflation (no pun intended).

It really is a house of cards, at some point it has to collapse. Growth cannot continue indefinitely! At some point the piper has to be paid, and there is no escaping that. Usually it is us poor plebs, if you are unfortunate to be one, who suffer the most.

Unfortunately, governments mostly only look to the past and how they can stay in power for the next three or four years. So, sorry to say, don't look for the solution there.

We are fortunate to live in Australia, with a debt to GDP ratio of approximately 22.9%, one of the lowest in the world, as compared to the US at 99.4% and the UK at 65.7%.

Unfortunately, there are going to be some changes and I just hope we can all survive them relatively intact and Australia probably will, which is why there are changes being implemented now. It is what is making us very attractive to people overseas.

AndrewJ · #73 04-09-2012, 08:25 PM

Gday Baz

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Hard luck all you suckers who pay to keep me in clover

All it takes is the swoosh of a pen and its over.

I personally reckon if its good enough for us to have our super at the risk of the market, its good enough for the pollies/public service.
Like this little beauty that just came out

http://www.investordaily.com/cps/rde...D9632-98A4F01B

I really liked this bit

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The auditor concluded the shortfall could not have been foreseen.
"Key factors contributing to increased liabilities for defined benefit super funds include deteriorating investment performance in global markets,

Bit like Ooops, we stuffed up your investments but its not our fault,
and anyway, the law says that we can collect 200 and not go to jail,
so lets see what else we can invest in meantime.

Got a flyer during the week that "Local" council rates will be going up bigtime again, as the state govt forces the local councils to fully fund the debt.
It wont last long at this rate.

Andrew

Stardrifter_WA · #74 04-09-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AndrewJ

Gday Baz

All it takes is the swoosh of a pen and its over.

I personally reckon if its good enough for us to have our super at the risk of the market, its good enough for the pollies/public service.
Like this little beauty

http://www.investordaily.com/cps/rde...D9632-98A4F01B

Got a flyer during the week that "Local" council rates will be going up bigtime again, as the state govt forces the local councils to fully fund the debt.
It wont last long at this rate.

Andrew

Just think Andrew, despite the "cost of living" it remains very popular.