Membership Cliques

[gregbradley]

I gotta say this group is extremely responsive to posted images compared to any other forum around.

I have been amazed at times you post an image thats taken you nearly a week to capture and process and you know its a reasonable effort and one person will comment on it on other forums.

On this forum you are much more likely to get a response.

Perhaps that s a positive trait of Aussies over other places. Kind of friendlier sort of people.

Greg.

[Peter.M]

I find it humerous that this thread is essentially about feeling ostracised from a group. If the stereotype were true we would all be, look how fellow astronomers are portrayed in the big bang theory.

[torana68 (Roger)]

Originally Posted by Kevnool

Is anyone going away over easter (Away from the computer).

gee didnt this take off since early today ....anyway ME! Im going home, and hoping for clear dark nights (I lived in BH for a while Kev ) someone mentioned a Nun and a orgy is there a contact for that?

[Max Vondel (Peter)]

I agree with you Stuart.

There are "mental hurdle chasers" everywhere
Still it's best to ignore the "BS"

And there are also many great people out there on IIS
Focus on the positive and ignore the trolls!

Clear Skies
Peter B

[Jen]

Originally Posted by rat156

So threads which are negative or express some misgivings about the site are now banned?

Welcome to the Orwellian vision.

You don't have to read it, you don't have to agree with me, but surely I have the right to say it?

Cheers
Stuart

oh dear.... i didnt say this has to be banned i just dont like negativity

Now get that scope out and point it up to the sky and do what you do best take some pics

[acropolite (Phil)]

You don't have to read it, you don't have to agree with me, but surely I have the right to say it?

I suppose you want the right to have babies as well......

[Bassnut (Fred)]

Originally Posted by Max Vondel

I agree with you Stuart.

There are "mental hurdle chasers" everywhere
Still it's best to ignore the "BS"

And there are also many great people out there on IIS
Focus on the positive and ignore the trolls!

Clear Skies
Peter B

Gaud, how many bad cliches can you fit in one post ?

[mishku]

Mmm... I don't mind cliques, as long as they are in time with the music. Clapping can get a bit out of hand at times though

Meanwhile I'm still trying to work out how we could get a nun to leave an orgy for long enough to actually visit a star party

[Jen]

lol mish

[mental4astro (Alexander)]

Clique!

I only wish the sketching threads in the Obs and Vis forum would get the half the traffic the imaging forums do, let lone comments.

I feel like me and a couple of others are the only mugs who fly the sad and sorry flag for the oldest form of astronomical imaging.

I understand each to their own. However, one way it could be seen is "he who has the deepest pockets wins". I guess a 50c pencil just won't cut the mustard here.

I can only see that many folks may just feel inadequate to make a comment, in all threads/forums. I see the sketching threads visit counter ticking over, but no one wants to even say "good one mate", .

It frustrates me, but I still keep adding to the threads, and savour as much as I can those comments and images fellow "sketchers" (as opposed to "imagers", ) post. I try hard to encourage. Maybe too hard? I just don't know. But I'll still keep posting my stuff.

My 2c worth.

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

I envy you sketchers your talents. It's a world away from the techo stuff we do. I'll make the effort to drop in more often.

[RB (Andrew)]

Alexander, I wish you could read my mind every time I view your sketches.
Unfortunately I don't post as often as I used to, too busy with work and watching my 8 kids grow up.

I do enjoy viewing everyone's images, sketches and reading the comments but don't take it personally if I don't post as much now as I used to.

That also goes for the rest of you.

[gregbradley]

8 kids?

Holy Cow, its a miracle you have the energy to even talk let alone post!

Greg.

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by mental4astro

However, one way it could be seen is "he who has the deepest pockets wins". I guess a 50c pencil just won't cut the mustard here.

Not at all. Love to browse the sketchings but I have no clue about how it's done or even relate to it as I'm an imager but I do appreciate the amount of work required and the skills hence lack of communication. There are a lot of other forums I read but I have nothing to contribute to. Doesn't mean they're not all important to me or others. Besides if we all liked the same things these forums would be boring. Vive la différence.

[Barrykgerdes]

After reading the first post on this subject again I gather the originator is unhappy because no one commented on his astro photos that were posted. I like many others look at these pictures and if they look correct don't need to comment.

However as for "joining a clique" he must agree that to have over 75 replies to a topic he started, has well and truly created his own little clique.

Gee I quite often don't get a single reply to a topic I start or a comment I make in another topic. It does not bother me. Even when I posted something in the Astronomy and Science topic and was told to clear off by the owners of that thread.

Barry

[Poita (Peter)]

I love your stuff, but I rarely notice it being posted for some reason??
I think maybe it is just a layout thing for me, if there was a Sketching main heading under the IMAGES section, like there is for Solar, DSO and Terrestrial I'd visit much more often. I just quite literally forget where to find the sketches, and because there isn't a reminder on the front page, I forget to look until it gets mentioned in another thread.
Then when I do I am blown away every time. I'd love to see it moved to the Images section so scatterbrains like myself would remember to be wowed more often.
There is so much stuff on this site, I tend not to delve outside the main headings as I spend too much time on here already!

Originally Posted by mental4astro

Clique!

I only wish the sketching threads in the Obs and Vis forum would get the half the traffic the imaging forums do, let lone comments.

I feel like me and a couple of others are the only mugs who fly the sad and sorry flag for the oldest form of astronomical imaging.

I understand each to their own. However, one way it could be seen is "he who has the deepest pockets wins". I guess a 50c pencil just won't cut the mustard here.

I can only see that many folks may just feel inadequate to make a comment, in all threads/forums. I see the sketching threads visit counter ticking over, but no one wants to even say "good one mate", .

It frustrates me, but I still keep adding to the threads, and savour as much as I can those comments and images fellow "sketchers" (as opposed to "imagers", ) post. I try hard to encourage. Maybe too hard? I just don't know. But I'll still keep posting my stuff.

My 2c worth.

[Poita (Peter)]

Originally Posted by RB

Alexander, I wish you could read my mind every time I view your sketches.
Unfortunately I don't post as often as I used to, too busy with work and watching my 8 kids grow up.

I do enjoy viewing everyone's images, sketches and reading the comments but don't take it personally if I don't post as much now as I used to.

That also goes for the rest of you.

8 Kids!?!? I'm impressed you post at all.

I'm the same, I probably should dish out some more 'OMG that is incredible' type posts, but I tend not to comment unless I have something constructive to say, which means I look at a lot of images and sketches and DIY builds and just saw 'Wow' out loud, envy the talent a little, remind myself to try harder and then move on and am wowed by the next image/sketch/project.
I read hundreds of threads I don't comment on, as I'd have nothing to say except 'well done' and worry sometimes it would come across as condescending when the thing in question is so far beyond my abilities.
But I will be doing more of that, so if your images become clogged with my comments and uninformed praise, you have all been warned!

[mental4astro (Alexander)]

Peter, here's the sketching sticky from the Observational and Visual forum:

Solar System and DSO sketching

And the Moon has its own sketching thread:

Sketch the Moon Night

And for the heck of it, my last sketch done a week ago of Omega Centauri from home:



Andrew, 8 kids, eh. Freak'n' awesome!

[jenchris (Jennifer)]

I've mentioned the clotty sort of amalgamation of patrons here.
It appears to be very hard to break into the circle of the cognoscenti.
Or the self involved panegyric of those who have accumulated huge and expensive lists of machinery (Not always astronomical in nature (save the price)).

I attempted to involve myself in this site but now only really come here to get opinions of members who own particular pieces of gear and sometimes a technique that someone may explain.

I'm not sure I appreciate the "I only managed to get 347 hours on this nebula so it's not finished." sort of posts.

I'd much prefer to get. "I have spent months trying to get enough information to portray this nebula and I think I'm not going to get any better than this."

I spend a fair bit of time on astronomyforum.net (as a moderator) and with a membership of 60,000 plus there's a lot of new faces popping up every day. We treat everyone the same and encourage those who are just breaking into the hobby, offer advice and generally have a fun time with like minded people.
There's only a few experienced imagers who are regulars, but they aren't cliquey and offer their experience and knowledge with gentle consideration.
But I think the main thing is, they've hung on to the enjoyment aspect and don't get bogged down in the bigger blacker dogs syndrome.

[Alchemy (Clive)]

Membership cliques......

Happens everywhere, nothing new.
IIS has its versions, doesn't bother me as I pretty much just look at the images as a guest nowadays...... I no longer comment.