Membership Cliques

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

There will be splinter groups within every large group of people. Not sure what the problem with that is.

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

I don't see why this is a surprise to anyone like any community there will be different groups why should a forum be any different to life you will have some people who cross boundries into different groups but I doubt that you will find someone who mixes with all groups. This forum is a microcosm of society as a whole. But in no way do I feel left out I have only been made to feel very welcome


Just my 2c worth.

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

I laugh at the so called 'clique' in Deep Sky Imaging.
Many of them hate each other viciously

Makes for amusing reading some nights
Not exactly what I call a 'clique'. More of a group of people with mutual interests but with different views about the outcome, and each other

[avandonk]

I find all this mere mention of cliques quite extraordinary! Do you really think we will let just any person in! We have standards to uphold and just because you do not meet the standards (which are secret by the way) any complaint is futile! It is obvious to me a lesser form of pond life is starting to have ideas way above their station.
This should be resisted at all costs as it may destroy our delusional lives.

Bert

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by Omaroo

There will be splinter groups within every large group of people. Not sure what the problem with that is.

Splitters!!!!
The People's Front of Astronomy
The Astronomers Peoples Front

[acropolite (Phil)]

However if you really want to feel left out criticise Steve Jobs or any of the Apple products, you will soon find one of the strongest cliques on this site.

The apple tragics aren't a clique, Unconditional Apple Devotion will be a certifiable condition once they work out the mechanisms that cause it. (love ya work Chris & H)

Seriously though IMO there are not cliques within the forum, those who contribute regularly get to know each other more quickly, tend to reveal more of themselves and interact freely.

Many of the members you may consider in the "clique" category have taken the trouble to meet each other at places like Astrofest, Snake Valley, or IIS astrocamps, or through private meetings. Many have been members since the year dot and know each other from relationships built during the early days of IIS.

In my opinion IIS is one of the friendliest forums I have been involved in, and the generosity and compassion shown by the members is second to none.

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

Splitters!!!!
The People's Front of Astronomy
The Astronomers Peoples Front

OH NO the PFA and the APF everyone run and hide

[supernova1965 (Warren)]

Originally Posted by acropolite

In my opinion IIS is one of the friendliest forums I have been involved in, and the generosity and compassion shown by the members is second to none.

I will second that

[avandonk]

jjjnettie you forgot the men who want to be women!

And what has IIS ever done for us!

The aqueducts : A link for the free flow of information
The roads: Meeting people face to face at various star parties etc.


I could go on but you get the drift.

Bert

[Octane (Humayun)]

Hey, Phil! I'm not an Apple tragic; I own a few of their devices, sure. I just don't get the unjustified taunts.

Or, maybe I am afflicted?

All good.

H

[Peter Ward]

I feel for you Stu.... For starters: you race an Italian car

I recall saying there was a heck of a lot of PC: if one dares to suggest improvements to crappy photo's (equivalent to crayon drawings on your mum's fridge)... and effectively saying: I'm not your momma kid..there were "ooh dear" and "tut-tut's"

Happily Sugery, Engineering and Aviation, (to name a few professions ) look at the real ramifications of below par effort.

I've since discovered the opposite extreme... sycophantic responses to posts that should be top-shelf, but missed the mark. Emperor missing clothing sort of stuff...

But Aussies are a "weird mob". Just look at the people we allow to run the place and take 3-6 months of our salary, then give it to people/programs that otherwise you'd not give a red-cent to...

.... my point is not to have a swing at the pollies...but simply for people to think critically, no matter what "it" is, ask "is that resonable? ", always question, and call a spade a 'bleedin shovel.

[Lester]

Where ever there is life there is a "peking order". Animals have them, people, families, towns, sports clubs etc. I bet you would find cliques in a group of stamp collectors also. There is the disadvantage of net mingling where one cannot see the other person to gauge their body language and mood. We can talk a lot on here, but never actually get to know the other person because of that.

All the best.

[GeoffW1 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

Splitters!!!!
The People's Front of Astronomy
The Astronomers Peoples Front

The front of some Astronomer People!!

[mill (Martin)]

People who know each other from astro camps or face to face will comment easier on each others posts and don't really have to think twice about a critique or a small taunt without a hissy fit.
this looks like a clique but isn't, with others you just have to think about what you type because you don't know the person.
This is why it is hard to comment on post's people write who you don't know.

[rat156]

Originally Posted by 2stroke

O.P. If you arn't getting any useful feedback here you could also try cloudynights, i'am sure the yanky guys would love to hear from a vet aussie ap'r like yourself. IIS is a great hub but i've also noticed from my wife posted images that very few comments come unless posted in the newbie section, my thinkings are there are to many people that need to make them selfs feel elite in the ap section and new commers work isn't worth there time. There are also groups of people which are close freinds and have there circles, but that just life be it here on a internet forum or any real life club/group/workplace. Anyhow don't let people on this forum put down your work in anyway what so ever as its probably much greater then theres and they could also be full of enevy

Cloudynights is even worse, firstly you're posting from somewhere outside the US, secondly it's in the Southern Hemisphere. Posted there a few times, got very few comments on the pictures, intact sometimes the post wasn't looked at much.

Cheers
Stuart

[rat156]

Originally Posted by desler

I come in and have received vast amounts of help which has got me just out of the very newbie stage! Whilst some of my images get comments, not all do! I'm more interested in comments to help me improve in either capture, processing or sorting out problems.

I don't ever think I've been abused or been abusive, just that this site is representative of the population as a whole, some people you'll get on with, some you won't, personally I miss looking at you images Stuart!

Clear skies to you!


Darren

Hi Darren,

I think that there's an "r" missing, I'm not going to be posting images of me in the future! Now that would be vain...

Being so close to each other geographically it's amusing to sometime see that we've been imaging the same things on the same night. I'm doing CG4 tonight, it's bloody dim! Hope you're out imaging as well.

Thanks for the sentiment though.

Cheers
Stuart

[rat156]

Originally Posted by Omaroo

There will be splinter groups within every large group of people. Not sure what the problem with that is.

The thread has wandered from the original intent, as often happens, sometimes for the good, sometimes not. Anyway the original intent of the thread was to expand upon the point brought out in another thread about the "boys club" (sorry jjj) being a discouragement from people posting. I simply pointed out that the boys club sometimes act a bit like bullies and discourage everyone from posting that isn't part of the clique.

I believe that this is the case, it certainly is for me and the other several people that have contacted me personally or through the thread. The example given was probably not well chosen.

On the subject of "once you get to know these people face to face, you'll feel more comfortable". What makes you think that if I feel uncomfortable online I would attend a star party where the organiser is probably one of these same people. About as welcome as a Nun at an orgy methinks.

Cheers
Stuart

[Kevnool (Kev)]

I,m laughing again.

[Jen]

i dissapear from these forums for a week and i come back to another negative thread Sometimes i just think you all forget why we joined this site in the first place we all have a love for astronomy


That is all !!!!!!

[ballaratdragons (Ken)]

Yep, it's all your fault Jen, for not being here to control everyone