Insane Petrol prices

[Kal (Andrew)]

Meh, when there was cheap fuel in the past most people loved driving gas guzzlers. It hits my hip pocket as well, but I'd happily pay double the current fuel price if it is the only way to change peoples consumption to a more sustainable level.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Peter , some one some were, is getting a whole lot fatter , on us , so this boils down to human , greed .
. ugly mother that one .
cuts deep .
Oh well . I seen and lived thru the almost exact socal experement , using petrol prices , cuts to the bone.
Ground root's of society .
It worked in NZ , and is been expanded into Austraila ...
Greed , yes mate I think so .deja vue. Sorry to say ....not tel vue ..
Brian.

Originally Posted by Stardrifter_WA

Hey Brian, it's not greed. It is simply supply and demand! China and India need more fuel than ever and are creating a huge demand. I don't like it one little bit, but that is the way of the world, unfortunately.

Cheers Peter

[KenGee (Kenith Gee)]

All I can say is how silly some people are not only do they want to live in a feed lot ie Sydney that you even prepaired to pay extra to do it. lol
$1:80 here.

[pgc hunter]

Originally Posted by clive milne

No... this comment is total BS.

well then stuff ya. Go and walk the 20km to work then for eff's sake.

unleaded atm here is about $1.37 /litre, but going by the posts here, it seems like $1.50 or more is more common. A sad state of affairs.

[pgc hunter]

Originally Posted by asimov

Don't drive then lol.

I wish.. PT makes sense for trips into the city, as car parking is beyond a rip off, and that's if you can find it, plus fuel... but for trips to the suburbs it is woefully inadequete so the car reigns king. I always caught the train to the city to tafe, even though it was an hour trip, it was much cheaper and a lot more convenient than driving. But, if you want to go from suburb to suburb, a car is pretty much the only way.

Originally Posted by TrevorW

12c a gallon in Venezuela what gives ????

no way!!??

[marki]

Do remember a large amount of the cost is due to state and federal govt taxs but still I don't care if crude goes through the roof because quite frankly it is far too precious a resource to simply pour out the back of an exhaust pipe. Higher cost = less use so its all good with me. Buy a pushbike and get fit .

Mark

[Baddad (Marty)]

Hi pgc Hunter and others.

The article below will explain a lot.
This greedy (deleted) decided to increase taxation on an environmentally friendly fuel.
Make up your own mind after reading the article.
7 years ago it cost only $15 to fill my tank from empty. Now its $64. @ $0.899 /ltr.

http://www.smh.com.au/business/lpg-p...523-1f0pk.html

[pgc hunter]

Originally Posted by marki

Do remember a large amount of the cost is due to state and federal govt taxs
Mark

hit the nail on the head, we are being taxed to bankruptcy by our current govt as a direct result of gross incompetence and waste at both federal and state level in the last few years. The Carbon Tax is not to "save the environment"... . I would go into more detail, but will end it there.

LPG going up 30c in a couple of months... yeah there is only one explanation....

[Poita (Peter)]

Petrol is cheap, coca cola costs way more. Coffee costs way more. Most things cost way more. It is also cheaper here than in many other 1st world countries.
It is about $1.60 a litre here. Yes it is heavily taxed, but I like having roads to drive on and hospitals to go to and somewhere my kids can get educated.

I moved closer to my work. I don't drive a 4WD. I bought a pushbike and use it as often as I can, I cut my fuel consumption by 60% from last year. Petrol will get more expensive, so will electricity and other energy costs as the true cost of them starts to bite and we have to pay the real prices.
We will probably have to change our lifestyles a little.
A volkswagon golf uses 4l per 100km, so it costs $6.40 to travel that far, that is pretty cheap. My car uses 8l so it costs me $12.80, still cheap.
My mate's landcruiser averages 16.5l per hundred, so it will set him back $26.40
I see a lot of big cars with single people in them choofing around the city day to day, with every 100km costing $20 more than in a golf, that really is money to burn.

[pgc hunter]

Originally Posted by Poita

Petrol is cheap, coca cola costs way more. Coffee costs way more. Most things cost way more. It is also cheaper here than in many other 1st world countries.
It is about $1.60 a litre here. Yes it is heavily taxed, but I like having roads to drive on and hospitals to go to and somewhere my kids can get educated.

speaking of coke... a 24 pack slab went from $13 in Dec to $18.62..... or from 48c/can to nearly 80c/can at Big W currently. The Big W where I work has less customers than staff, stock is sitting in the back dock going rotten, no one is buying anything, no one can afford this BS anymore.

Just tonight I had to get rid of a whole palllet of chips, coz they just go off coz no one is buying them. They aren't getting sold. No one can afford to go bloody shoppping anymore.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

It was $2.00 a litre 4 years ago when I left NZ , It's a ' comming '.to OZ . The Greed Monster .
.
Brian.

Originally Posted by KenGee

All I can say is how silly some people are not only do they want to live in a feed lot ie Sydney that you even prepaired to pay extra to do it. lol
$1:80 here.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

thirsty ,,, 50 liters of " coke " wont get me to Alice Springs in 9 hours ... I would rather drive , how about you ? .
Brian. .

Originally Posted by Poita

Petrol is cheap, coca cola costs way more. Coffee costs way more. Most things cost way more. It is also cheaper here than in many other 1st world countries.
It is about $1.60 a litre here. Yes it is heavily taxed, but I like having roads to drive on and hospitals to go to and somewhere my kids can get educated.

I moved closer to my work. I don't drive a 4WD. I bought a pushbike and use it as often as I can, I cut my fuel consumption by 60% from last year. Petrol will get more expensive, so will electricity and other energy costs as the true cost of them starts to bite and we have to pay the real prices.
We will probably have to change our lifestyles a little.
A volkswagon golf uses 4l per 100km, so it costs $6.40 to travel that far, that is pretty cheap. My car uses 8l so it costs me $12.80, still cheap.
My mate's landcruiser averages 16.5l per hundred, so it will set him back $26.40
I see a lot of big cars with single people in them choofing around the city day to day, with every 100km costing $20 more than in a golf, that really is money to burn.

[Poita (Peter)]

Originally Posted by pgc hunter

speaking of coke... a 24 pack slab went from $13 in Dec to $18.62..... or from 48c/can to nearly 80c/can at Big W currently. The Big W where I work has less customers than staff, stock is sitting in the back dock going rotten, no one is buying anything, no one can afford this BS anymore.

Just tonight I had to get rid of a whole palllet of chips, coz they just go off coz no one is buying them. They aren't getting sold. No one can afford to go bloody shoppping anymore.

Well, I guess it is different place to place, our BigW is packed, I do nightfill there and haven't ever had to pull drygoods off the shelf that weren't so,me specialist item.
80c a can isn't bad, people pay over $2 at the servo.
I don't earn much, just under $30K a year, but I can feed my 3 kids and myself pretty well, we can still afford to go shopping. I run no debt except for my growing HECS. We have to be a bit choosy sometimes, but just about anyone on these forums is doing reasonably okay. We at a minimum just by being here have computers, and internet and a hobby that is an indulgence.
Prices seem cheaper to me on most things than they were 10 years ago. Computers, telescopes, TVs (55" 3D for $800!?!) , clothes, internet, cameras, electronics in general are all way more affordable *and* better featured than back then. Food and petrol has gone up, but not to the point that I can't afford to eat pretty well.

The amount of takeaway coffee and takeaway lunch/snacks I see people have in the street tends to make me think that we aren't on the breadline yet.

[Poita (Peter)]

Originally Posted by brian nordstrom

thirsty ,,, 50 liters of " coke " wont get me to Alice Springs in 9 hours ... I would rather drive , how about you ? .
Brian. .

If I drank 50litres of coke I reckon I'd make it to Alice in under 9 hours on foot and be waiting for you at the bar!

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

still cheeper than a brick wall .
Brian .

Originally Posted by KenGee

All I can say is how silly some people are not only do they want to live in a feed lot ie Sydney that you even prepaired to pay extra to do it. lol
$1:80 here.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

the vampires are out $40 was not 1/4 my tank.
Brian.

Originally Posted by Poita

Well, I guess it is different place to place, our BigW is packed, I do nightfill there and haven't ever had to pull drygoods off the shelf that weren't so,me specialist item.
80c a can isn't bad, people pay over $2 at the servo.
I don't earn much, just under $30K a year, but I can feed my 3 kids and myself pretty well, we can still afford to go shopping. I run no debt except for my growing HECS. We have to be a bit choosy sometimes, but just about anyone on these forums is doing reasonably okay. We at a minimum just by being here have computers, and internet and a hobby that is an indulgence.
Prices seem cheaper to me on most things than they were 10 years ago. Computers, telescopes, TVs (55" 3D for $800!?!) , clothes, internet, cameras, electronics in general are all way more affordable *and* better featured than back then. Food and petrol has gone up, but not to the point that I can't afford to eat pretty well.

The amount of takeaway coffee and takeaway lunch/snacks I see people have in the street tends to make me think that we aren't on the breadline yet.

[AndrewJ]

unleaded atm here is about $1.37 /litre,

Just heard on the radio that it went up 20c/l overnight in Melb.???
Cant say there isnt something funny going on.
( Ooohhh forgot, Easters coming )
Perhaps all the unemployed property speculators have moved into oil.

Andrew

[mithrandir (Andrew)]

Originally Posted by brian nordstrom

the vampires are out $40 was not 1/4 my tank.
Brian.

For me $40 has not been 1/4 of a tank in the last 7 years. It was over $220 for almost a tank in Sydney a couple of weeks ago. It is a slightly larger tank - 180 litres.

[jenchris (Jennifer)]

My car (Mazda 3 2lite) does 6.9l/100k. That approx 10cents a km.
I service it myself so that costs about 40 dollars per 5000k so add another 1c per k.
I can't think of a more efficient way of traveling - trains empty or full use enough fuel to pull 3 carriages at 100km/h. Since they are only full at peak times, then it is wasteful.
I refuse to pay for parking, that's a greed tax.

Easiest solution - staggered working hours - no peak times, smaller trains, no parking problems. Turn off street lights and use LED sensor lighting. stop producing mini flouros - they're environment poison.
Decentralise and work from home.

[Poita (Peter)]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...ulbs-dangerous