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Old 25-09-2011, 04:04 PM
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Very nicely done Steve!
Yes, it looks like some pretty heavy activity happening in and around the nucleus... not to mention all the little galaxies it's devouring!

Rich
Thanks Rich. It's certainly a galaxy that deserves to be better known

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Very nice galaxy and lovely details.
Thanks Marc

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Nicely done Steve and i know what you mean with the weather
@#%@ clouds
Thanks Martin. The weather has been a problem for a while and there's another La Nina on the way too.

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A great looking galaxy Steve....shot in Canberra light pollution was It?
Thanks Louie. Yes, from my backyard observatory in Southern Canberra. Actually the seeing is more of a problem than the light pollution. If you want good seeing then don't come to Canberra.
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Old 26-09-2011, 06:27 AM
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Hi Steve,

I love galaxy phtotos and yours is impressive.

Amazing colours and detail.

Thanks.

Ross.
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Old 26-09-2011, 09:00 AM
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Hi Steve,

I love galaxy phtotos and yours is impressive.

Amazing colours and detail.

Thanks.

Ross.
Thanks Ross
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Old 26-09-2011, 11:51 AM
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Nice work Steve. Certainly not seen this one for a while. Really like the field of view, it gives that sense of distance.
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Old 26-09-2011, 03:27 PM
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Nice work Steve. Certainly not seen this one for a while. Really like the field of view, it gives that sense of distance.
Thanks Paul
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Old 27-09-2011, 03:34 PM
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Yep, like it Steve. Nicely done (recovered).

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Old 28-09-2011, 03:10 PM
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Yep, like it Steve. Nicely done (recovered).

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Thanks Martin. I've now worked out the guiding problems I've been having. An AOL arrived yesterday so maybe that will help with the seeing.
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Old 28-09-2011, 08:12 PM
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NGC 7552 image gallery (various wavelengths)

Hi Steve,

I've been trying to get together a multi-wavelength collection of NGC 7552 images for some time.
The morphology of this galaxy is often compared with that of NGC 7582, yet it seems to me there are undeniable peculiarities in N7552.

This is one of those galaxies for which the old-style photographic process image from the Carnegie Atlas of Galaxies is a good one:

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Because this atlas image is reproduced from a blue-sensitive photographic plate, the dust lanes are heavier than they look in most CCD exposures, due to the presence of more extinction (within N7552) than in red light.
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Here's an image at a much longer wavelength, an Near-infrared H-band image (1.6 micrometres) from the OSUBSGS survey, reproduced at a linear scale:

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Much of the dust extinction is gone in this image, as most 1.6 micron photons pass through all but the heaviest dust lanes, and furthermore this image emphasizes an older stellar population. It is remarkable how intense the central feature is in this galaxy.
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The intensely bright central region is also well shown in the following near-infrared (J+H+K bands) image from 2MASS:

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Also, it can be seen in this image that, despite the confusing and dusty appearance of this galaxy in the optical regime, its bar, as defined by the old mass-dominant stellar population, looks normal..... so the overall distribution of stars within this galaxy is probably not highly disturbed (indeed, the NIR isophotes of the bar are nothing unusual).
Yet, referring back to the Blue-sensitive image of NGC 7552 in the de Vaucouleurs Atlas of Galaxies (see the link in my previous post in this thread), the distribution of dust and Population I material is unusual and possibly disturbed. Young material (e.g. OB stars and dust and molecular gas) within disk galaxies is “kinematically cold” (i.e. low random velocities and high co-ordinated rotation), so it is easily disrupted; and it is always of small mass relative to the total luminous mass of a spiral galaxy.
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NGC 7552 does look interesting in (continuum subtracted) Hydrogen alpha line images.

(( For the uninitiated, I here explain that a galaxy image made with a Hydrogen alpha filter includes not only nebular light, but also some light from the stars of a galaxy (this is called the stellar continuum). But, using a mathematical model, it is possible to turn a raw H-alpha image into a “continuum subtracted” H-alpha image of a galaxy, and such an image includes the H-alpha line only......in other words, an image which shows only nebular light from HII regions ))

So here is an H-alpha (continuum subtracted) image of NGC 7552 by Salman Hameed of Hampshire College (references: 1999, AJ, 118, 730 and 2005, AJ, 129, 2597) :

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Despite considerable dimming from dust extinction, the central region of this galaxy is still intense in H-alpha light, undoubtedly due to its circumnuclear ring of OB stars and H-alpha regions. (this is a "circumnuclear starburst")

Here is Hameed's comparison of his H-alpha image (right panel) with a broadband optical image in the left panel :

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The H-alpha emission seen along the bar follows the two leading edges of the bar, where models indicate that the interstellar gas within a barred spiral galaxy is shocked into compression (this also causes the characteristic leading edge dust lanes in barred spirals) ;
gas compression here must have formed young and massive stars, which have ionized the interstellar medium in order to make the HII regions that are seen along the bar.
However, the apparent (as observed) asymmetry of this galaxy is considerable, in Hydrogen alpha light.
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I now compare the distribution of H-alpha light (which mainly comes from HII regions and which is a therefore an excellent tracer of where the most massive & hot & luminous stars are), with another good tracer of the distribution of OB stars within a galaxy; far-ultraviolet (FUV) light.

Here is the FUV image of NGC 7552 taken by GALEX, displayed firstly at a Square Root scale and secondly at a linear scale:

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To be honest, I don't know exactly what to make of the morphology of this galaxy in FUV light....but extinction will be very high at this wavelength, so many of the regions with OB stars may not be visible from our line-of-sight.

Certainly, any morphological interpretation of NGC 7552 will be tentative, if it is based on visible or ultraviolet wavelength images; there is a lot of obscuring dust evident in this galaxy that can easily hide structures existing behind it.
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Old 29-09-2011, 04:21 PM
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Here's another one Robert:

http://www.capella-observatory.com/I...es/NGC7552.htm

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Old 30-09-2011, 07:59 AM
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Steve,

that's a fine image from Capella Observatory.

While there are plenty of barred spirals with unusual dust distributions (I have in mind the semi-chaotic dust distribution in NGC 2903, which nonetheless overlays an old stellar population that is distributed quite normally)
the unusual dust distribution in NGC 7552 seems to me to be quite singular. For one thing, the irregularity in the dust extends to a very large physical scale

I think that a high angular resolution amateur image would help to elucidate more about this galaxy, but this would be very hard to achieve because the bar is only about two arcminutes across.

"Just for fun and profit", and to show how diverse is the dust morphology in the population of barred spiral galaxies,
I attach an image of NGC 2903:

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Additional comment added in edit:
The two major "deeply incised" and "continuous-looking" dust lanes (along the bar) that can be seen in the Capella image look to me like an artefact of their processing. A lot of amateur processing tends to have the effect of making dust lanes look both darker and more continuous than they actually are in the real universe.
The dust lanes seen in your full resolution crop of your N7552 image have a more realistic and "true to life" appearance.

The "over processed" look of some amateur images can sometimes produce "pseudo-morphology" instead of the actual structures that exist in the galaxy itself.

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Lovely work Steve. Given the issues you note, you've produced a great image. Thanks for sharing this little gem.
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