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Old 13-09-2011, 03:53 PM
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If I was in charge of safety in New York and a pair of very large buildings were in danger of collapsing in an unpredictable direction which may kill 10 of thousands of people and destroy half of Manhattan, I would hit the destruct button and bring it down in its own footprint.
I know there were a lot of lives lost, but there'd have been an economic collapse and exactly what Bin Liner wanted if it had laid full length across Manhattan.
I've no doubt that all the buildings of that height in New York are loaded with explosives when they're built to make sure this happens in a bad case scenario. It may even have been triggered by the internal temperatures of the fire. A sort of safe self destruct.

I know that the Mafia control the concrete in New York and it's probably not the best (one of the reasons there's so much steel in the buildings is that the concrete is overpriced by the Mafia.)

An acquaintance of mine was on the ground trying to find survivors and was ushered off the site by the fire department because of Union interference.
There's no doubt the jets hit the buildings (like how does a ball produce wing shaped penetration?)

They'll be saying Julia Gillard is a real person next.
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Old 13-09-2011, 04:07 PM
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shape shifting alien reptiles!
What a great name for a rock band.

There are weird ideas and weird people particulary within the human race.
(not to mention genuine misunderstnading of facts etc).and you will never prove someone incorrect who knows they are right...they think you simply missed the point.. waste as much time as you like they enjoy the arguement.


Nod smile and walk away but dont let another pull your chain. Let them think what they want it wont change reality.


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Old 13-09-2011, 04:08 PM
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I was up all with my dad while we watched this take place on the news. It was cut in on an episode of the West Wing on Channel 9 when I saw and for a minute (given i had seen the loan gunman episode) and the fact West wing was airing i thought surely this is a prank. But when reality set in I was screaming Dad Dad come see this. Some memories i wish I could forget.

During that night I recall one video of some firefighters taking a break together and talkin about the building colapse and one of them described it like "boom boom boom" with his hands ilustrating the colapse was is stages. And he said as if it was a controlled explosion.

I think myself to be a resonable person, but there are things abou that day that just dont sit right with me in terms of there "official" explanations.
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Old 13-09-2011, 04:11 PM
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Alex, my dad said the same thing to me a long time ago. Most people including myself dont even listen, that is we just waiting for our turn to speak.
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Old 13-09-2011, 04:34 PM
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Alex, my dad said the same thing to me a long time ago. Most people including myself dont even listen, that is we just waiting for our turn to speak.
I have sat in on many husband/wife discussions..neither hears or understands the other.. so one acts like an interpreter between them.
Funny how they can be in agreement yet have no idea cause they are point scoring.

I try to give anyone a go and try not to comment on their belief for their benefit as well as my own.

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Old 13-09-2011, 08:12 PM
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It may even have been triggered by the internal temperatures of the fire. A sort of safe self destruct.
There was an interview with the Architect who designed the WTC buildings bask in late 2001. He stated the buildings are basically similar to a Coke can, a solid outer structure with little support on the interior. He surmised the reason for their collapsed was due to a localized stress at the entry points of the airplanes in conjunction with the fires weakening the outer metal framework.

The popping (explosions) in the lower floors were due to the upper floors collapsing in a impact fashion. Most people think that the buildings collapsed "smoothly" when in fact, each floor collapsed and impacted on the floor below it. As the building fell, more and more impacts were felt by the lower portion of the buildings causing a catastrophic failure (i.e. there were no explosions due to explosives).

The impact is analogous to a multiple car pile-up where the last car impacts the car in front, which then impacts the car in front of it and so forth. The only different is that gravity continues the process during a building collapse, where as friction stops the process in a car crash, preventing momentum from building up.
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Old 13-09-2011, 08:28 PM
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Hm, now we have a new point - explosives in the buildings.
I was wondering why ground zero was burning for 1 MONTH after collapse?
I would like to know just what happened there, because something in whole story does not sound right, right?
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Old 13-09-2011, 11:19 PM
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Old 15-09-2011, 08:15 AM
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I find this thread very sad...

But at least we live in a place where we can freely have these discussions and differences of opinions. As someone who has travelled the world and lived for extended periods Islamic countries, Africa and former Soviet Republics - we really need to appreciate our government and society more. We love to cut down and think the worst... now they are FAR from perfect, but they are MUCH better than what is going around in other places.
So here is a new conspiracy theory... some of our politicians may actually be better people than we give them credit for.
Now that would put me in the "lunatic" fringe!
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Old 15-09-2011, 08:34 AM
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Lets face it
The towers collapsed 10 years ago. Its time to get on with our live. I do note that very little is ever said about the flimsy construction of the towers. I reckon the same result could have been achieved by blocking the toilets and and then light the gas generated. Blow out one side of the building and gravity does the rest!

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Old 18-09-2011, 05:24 PM
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"pretty much identical" - not what you'd call scientific analysis.

And the images (around 16:40) are about as blurry as my iPhone pictures of Saturn.
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