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12-08-2011, 12:24 PM
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As a late comer, I too have never seen that before, but you have certainly captured that beautifully Jase, you don't do it often, but when you do it is awesome stuff.
Leon
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12-08-2011, 12:59 PM
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Narrowfield rules!
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Excellent, unusuall. Nice change from the top 10.
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12-08-2011, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by leon
As a late comer, I too have never seen that before, but you have certainly captured that beautifully Jase, you don't do it often, but when you do it is awesome stuff.
Leon
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Never too late Leon! Quality over quantity. As I've said before, if I can produce a couple of quality images a year then I'm satisfied. Its easy to fall into the trap of object fever where you shoot multiple targets a night. I'm happy to sit on a target for a month or two to produce something that works for me. Each to their own. Thanks again mate, I'm pleased you liked it.
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
Excellent, unusuall. Nice change from the top 10.
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Cheers Fred. Agree, its always refreshing to see something different. It becomes increasingly hard to rejuvenate the top 10, without major ingenuity. Thanks for checking it out.
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12-08-2011, 08:32 PM
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Mostly harmless...
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Original, technically demanding, and beautiful.
Jase is BACK
p.s. I reckon ABE is under-rated in PI - DBE can require quite a bit of experimentation to get the right samples in place, but ABE can often give better results out of the box. Rogelio confirmed he will often do lots of trial runs with DBE before leaving it be.....
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13-08-2011, 07:25 AM
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Oh my goodness, another stunning piece of astronomy art as we have come to expect from you Jase. As always, thank you for the rich commentary, which provides much insight into the selection and processing of these fabulous Jase masterpieces – you do it so very well.
Now I just have to go and get meself a larger monitor!
Cheers
Dennis
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13-08-2011, 08:53 AM
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ze frogginator
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Very interesting object out of the beaten track and very well processed too. Although it sounds like it is extremely faint the field and stellar profile look very natural. Nicely done indeed.
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13-08-2011, 10:22 AM
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Going where few have gone before, Thanks for the wonderful view Jase. All the best.
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14-08-2011, 08:07 PM
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Fantastic Jase! Certainly a very interesting image and your processing balances deserve high credit. Thanks for sharing with us.
Darrin...
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14-08-2011, 08:23 PM
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Hard to describe, how I feel about this! Amazing capture, masterful processing. Just hard to imagine it's actually up there. Always good to end a day with the thought that you've seen something that you've never seen before. Thanks jase.
Darren
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14-08-2011, 10:16 PM
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Hi Jase,
This is simply breath taking!! Really inspires me to refine my technique to try and achieve a result like this.
Awesome stuff  
Lucas
Last edited by LucasB; 14-08-2011 at 10:17 PM.
Reason: spelling
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15-08-2011, 09:13 AM
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Dark and foreboding - beautifully done.
Doug
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15-08-2011, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RobF
Original, technically demanding, and beautiful.
Jase is BACK
p.s. I reckon ABE is under-rated in PI - DBE can require quite a bit of experimentation to get the right samples in place, but ABE can often give better results out of the box. Rogelio confirmed he will often do lots of trial runs with DBE before leaving it be.....
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Thanks Rob! Technically demanding it, but perhaps only because its so low in the sky. Some field rotation was present but nothing that couldn't be dealt with. Am still learning the ropes with PixInsight. I did try ABE, but it struggled to detect the differences in the background dust versus minor gradients. DBE is without doubt a fine tool but I can get similar results with PS GradientXterminator. The trick with the latter however is to ensure star and extended object selection and feathering is well defined otherwise its a mess. There is a good write up on the differences between ABE and DBE on the PI forum. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Dennis
Oh my goodness, another stunning piece of astronomy art as we have come to expect from you Jase. As always, thank you for the rich commentary, which provides much insight into the selection and processing of these fabulous Jase masterpieces – you do it so very well. http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....s/thumbsup.gif
Now I just have to go and get meself a larger monitor!
Cheers
Dennis
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Cheers Dennis. I strive to show something different as it easy to fall into the trap of regular objects. As Fred politely put it - the top 10. Your philosphy is similar in that you image super dim clusters for example that are not regularly seen. It adds an extra dimension. Thinking outside the square is bound to drive different and interesting results. I do apologise for uploading such large images, but its really the only way to view mosaics. Not a fan of zoomify so will just stick with providing alternate resolutions. One day, monitors will catch up but its difficult with today's megapixel sensors. Really appreciate the feedback.
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Thanks Marc. I did pay attention to the stars. I work on the principles for stellar profiles as I documented here. Stars can either make or break an image. If they are stretched so that they're all white, they can't be coloured given the RGB additive colour space. Thanks for taking the time to check it out.
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Going where few have gone before, Thanks for the wonderful view Jase. All the best.
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Thanks Lester. Pleased you enjoyed it.
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Originally Posted by midnight
Fantastic Jase! Certainly a very interesting image and your processing balances deserve high credit. Thanks for sharing with us.
Darrin...
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Cheers Darrin! The dust is certainly eye catching. There also appears to be a small reflection nebula present in the field. Thanks for the kind words on processing and making comment on the image.
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Originally Posted by desler
Hard to describe, how I feel about this! Amazing capture, masterful processing. Just hard to imagine it's actually up there. Always good to end a day with the thought that you've seen something that you've never seen before. Thanks jase.
Darren
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Thanks Darren. Yes, there is much around our south celestial pole. I've got a few other projects planned in the area when the season is prime for the targets. It's certainly an area that deserves more attention. Thanks again for the feedback. I'm pleased you enjoyed it.
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Cheers Lucas. The further south you are the more well placed imaging around the pole becomes. I don't normally start imaging until an object hits 40-50 degrees in altitude and that's only through a red filter. The thought of imaging through green, blue and clear filters while the target was so low worried me little. Unfortunately, it wasn't going to get any higher so had no choice. My skies are probably the darkest to the south and east so that would have helped. Am pleased it has provided inspiration. Nothing ventured, nothing gained when it comes to imaging. Thanks again.
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Originally Posted by dugnsuz
Dark and foreboding - beautifully done.
Doug
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Thanks Doug. Does have a sinister look about it. Thanks for checking it out!
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All, thanks again for your support and feedback.
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15-08-2011, 10:44 PM
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Galaxy hitchhiking guide
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"FM.....no static at all" (If you are not a Steely Dan fan this will make no sense at all  )
Missed this one. Clearly another cool wall candidate.
Jaysus H... has it been clear in VIC???
...and as usual , nice one!
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15-08-2011, 11:13 PM
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Thanks Peter. Clear in Vic? Depends on who you ask. I don't wait up to check. Isn't that what cloud sensors are for. Thanks for checking the image out.
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16-08-2011, 09:39 PM
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cool jase.. very dark stuff. glad to see you got to the end of this project. 12 hours exposure, 120 hours processing perhaps? and sounds like you've saved me the hassle of learning PI and i'll stick with PS!
inspiring stuff.. you've got a smoothly functioning system producing top notch work.
phil
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17-08-2011, 12:49 AM
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A wonderful image Jase, this is one dust cloud that I have not seen before. A very intricate and fascinating object I found myself being drawn into it.
Thanks for a glimpse at what is probably a rarely imaged object.
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18-08-2011, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by philiphart
cool jase.. very dark stuff. glad to see you got to the end of this project. 12 hours exposure, 120 hours processing perhaps? and sounds like you've saved me the hassle of learning PI and i'll stick with PS!
inspiring stuff.. you've got a smoothly functioning system producing top notch work. http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....s/thumbsup.gif
phil
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Cheers Phil. Yes, I recall speaking to you about it at AAIC - the whole pole rotation discussion is a challenge. Perhaps a Takometer/PIR with calculated PA variance would work, similar to what RBA used when imaging around the northern pole. Indeed, several hours spent processing this one - its a labour of love though. PI has some cool features. It doesn't do it all, nothing does. Its a matter of determining what works best for you and leverage the features you like to make the most of the data. Worth having a look. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Ric
A wonderful image Jase, this is one dust cloud that I have not seen before. A very intricate and fascinating object I found myself being drawn into it.
Thanks for a glimpse at what is probably a rarely imaged object.
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Thanks Ric! I'm not going to turn into a dust aficionado, I'll leave that for others more qualified. I do however like to pick out interesting features such as the uncatalogued little reflection neb. Pretty cool. I'm pleased you enjoyed it. Thanks for checking it out.
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Thanks again all.
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19-08-2011, 09:46 PM
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Not seen this area imaged for gas clouds b4 although the colour seems a tad grey how indicative is this of the true colour
do you have other examples of this as a comparison
likewise nice work as usual
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19-08-2011, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TrevorW
Not seen this area imaged for gas clouds b4 although the colour seems a tad grey how indicative is this of the true colour
do you have other examples of this as a comparison
likewise nice work as usual
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Thanks Trevor! Given this is a lesser known target, you wont find many comparative images but there is a few out there online. Its close to G2V but extinction factors could potentially be improved if I were super pedantic about it. Making the dust a deeper brown hue that we are familiar with is not difficult, but that's not how I wished to portray this scene. 'Pretty picture' imaging provides freedom of expression and that's precisely what I've done here. Perhaps give the target a go yourself. Will certainly test your gear. Thanks for checking it out - appreciated.
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