Orion Mosaic

gregbradley · #1 17-07-2011, 04:04 PM

This is the image I got an Honourable Mention for at the Malin Awards and was also a finalist at the AAIC event:

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/133248202/large

David Malin made a few critiquing comments about the image so in light of those I did a repro when I got home and here it is:

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/image/136480540/large regular

http://www.pbase.com/gregbradley/ima...80540/original larger image

I think it is an improvement.

FSQ106ED with reducer, 4 panel 4.3 billion pixel mosaic.

Greg.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #2 17-07-2011, 04:10 PM

What a beautiful image!
Yes, the repro to me is an improvement.
Congratulations!

renormalised (Carl) · #3 17-07-2011, 04:34 PM

The repros do look a bit better....sharper and with more natural colour overall (not so "neon" looking in parts).

gregbradley · #4 17-07-2011, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjnettie

What a beautiful image!
Yes, the repro to me is an improvement.
Congratulations!

Thanks JJ. I think it looks better - more balanced and less heavy handed with the colour.

Quote:

Originally Posted by renormalised

The repros do look a bit better....sharper and with more natural colour overall (not so "neon" looking in parts).

Yes I agree. Its so easy with modern digital processing to go that bit too much for colour saturation.

Greg.

Paul Haese · #5 17-07-2011, 04:47 PM

Lovely work Greg. I am sort of torn between both images. Not sure which I like the most.

Stevec35 (Steve) · #6 17-07-2011, 04:47 PM

Yep - agree with that. Both fine images of course but I think the new version has a more subtle appearance.

Cheers

Steve

atalas · #7 17-07-2011, 05:15 PM

Yeah,same here there's things I like about both images Greg.

batema (Mark) · #8 17-07-2011, 05:43 PM

I think the first one is fantastic and the second one is fantastic and the larger image is fantastic. Beautiful field of view.

Mark

multiweb (Marc) · #9 17-07-2011, 05:55 PM

Love the repro and I can understand why it's better. In the first one M42 is saturated to the max, especially the blues and sticks out like a fly on a white wall. It doesn't blend in the whole view as well as your repro. The red in the barnard loop doesn't match the red in the HH region and the red in the lower right of your field. In your repro it is color balanced nicely across the whole field. Finally the relative luminosity in different parts of the barnard loop is more homogeneous than in the first shot. You've also made the core of M42 brighter which is correct. When you look at the whole field it is a massive improvement so I got to say well done.

RBA (Rogelio) · #10 17-07-2011, 06:08 PM

I like both. For my personal taste, I like the latest version more, but I wouldn't say it's "better" just because it's less saturated - obviously that's not the only difference, but as far as saturation goes, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

The composition is also quite nice, almost as in a cascade of objects from M42 all the way to LDN 1622. Nice stuff!!

Lester · #11 17-07-2011, 06:15 PM

I have enjoyed the view of both images Greg, thanks. Something for us lesser chaps to aim for in the future.

peter_4059 (Peter) · #12 17-07-2011, 06:39 PM

The repro is excellent Greg. The colours look more subtle compared to the original.

Ross G · #13 17-07-2011, 06:45 PM

Hi Greg,

What an amzing photo!

I agree with Lester, it gives the rest of us something to aim for.

An image to remember.

Thanks.

Ross.

gregbradley · #14 17-07-2011, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Haese

Lovely work Greg. I am sort of torn between both images. Not sure which I like the most.

Thanks Paul. I personally like the repro and David's critique was good there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevec35

Yep - agree with that. Both fine images of course but I think the new version has a more subtle appearance.

Cheers

Steve

Thanks Steve. I agree.

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Originally Posted by atalas

Yeah,same here there's things I like about both images Greg.

I was trying to highlight the Barnard's loop a bit too hard in the original I think as it is so rarely seen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by batema

I think the first one is fantastic and the second one is fantastic and the larger image is fantastic. Beautiful field of view.

Mark

Cheers Mark.

Quote:

Originally Posted by multiweb

Love the repro and I can understand why it's better. In the first one M42 is saturated to the max, especially the blues and sticks out like a fly on a white wall. It doesn't blend in the whole view as well as your repro. The red in the barnard loop doesn't match the red in the HH region and the red in the lower right of your field. In your repro it is color balanced nicely across the whole field. Finally the relative luminosity in different parts of the barnard loop is more homogeneous than in the first shot. You've also made the core of M42 brighter which is correct. When you look at the whole field it is a massive improvement so I got to say well done.

Yes I think so too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RBA

I like both. For my personal taste, I like the latest version more, but I wouldn't say it's "better" just because it's less saturated - obviously that's not the only difference, but as far as saturation goes, it's all in the eye of the beholder.

The composition is also quite nice, almost as in a cascade of objects from M42 all the way to LDN 1622. Nice stuff!!

Thanks Rogelio. Your image inspired me to take this one in the first place, so thank you to you!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lester

I have enjoyed the view of both images Greg, thanks. Something for us lesser chaps to aim for in the future.

Thanks Lester. I wanted to get it fairly right as next year I want to add to it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter_4059

The repro is excellent Greg. The colours look more subtle compared to the original.

I agree Peter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross G

Hi Greg,

What an amzing photo!

I agree with Lester, it gives the rest of us something to aim for.

An image to remember.

Thanks.

Ross.

Cheers Ross.

Greg.

DavidTrap (David) · #15 17-07-2011, 07:33 PM

Let me guess what the comments were - "respect the light and colour"?

After listening to David's talk at AAIC, and comparing your two images, I can see what he is meaning.

I prefer the new version too.

DT

gregbradley · #16 17-07-2011, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidTrap

Let me guess what the comments were - "respect the light and colour"?

After listening to David's talk at AAIC, and comparing your two images, I can see what he is meaning.

I prefer the new version too.

DT

You guessed it.

Greg.

DavidTrap (David) · #17 17-07-2011, 08:22 PM

"Respect" seems to be the word of 2011.

It's being used everywhere - my favourite is the Panadol ad, where they say it "respects the body".

DT

ChrisM · #18 17-07-2011, 08:42 PM

Greg,

A great effort and a very pleasing result. I too prefer the more subtle tones of the repro and it's always instructive to see the "big picture" that encompasses some familiar targets.

Chris
ps - I was pleased to meet you at AAIC recently.

midnight (Darrin) · #19 17-07-2011, 10:26 PM

Magnificant field and sooo much detail in there.

Absolutely love it and something to learn a lot from.

You've done extremely well Greg and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Darrin...

gregbradley · #20 17-07-2011, 10:34 PM

QUOTE=DavidTrap;744688]Let me guess what the comments were - "respect the light and colour"?

After listening to David's talk at AAIC, and comparing your two images, I can see what he is meaning.

I prefer the new version too.

DT[/QUOTE]

Yes I think he is on the money there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidTrap

"Respect" seems to be the word of 2011.

It's being used everywhere - my favourite is the Panadol ad, where they say it "respects the body".

DT

Yes that is a classic, very humorous. They really must think their viewers are stupid eh?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisM

Greg,

A great effort and a very pleasing result. I too prefer the more subtle tones of the repro and it's always instructive to see the "big picture" that encompasses some familiar targets.

Chris
ps - I was pleased to meet you at AAIC recently.

Great to meet you to Chris. Cheers mate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnight

Magnificant field and sooo much detail in there.

Absolutely love it and something to learn a lot from.

You've done extremely well Greg and thanks for sharing.

Cheers,
Darrin...

Thanks Darrin. Its a shame I didn't do the repro before the competition hehehe.

Greg.