Solar Power & a useless government

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by strongmanmike

and, so why does one add this in brackets if not being political..?

Oh and, Martin has an Honours Degree in Economics from Sydney University

Then he should stick to it (economics), although he displays very little ability in this regard as well. In any case, an honours degree doesn't make you any smarter than the guy down the road, It's barely a foot in the door.

[TrevorW]

Are the elusive degree card is played

knowledge and wisdom do not go hand in hand

knowledge is knowing a tomarto is a fruit wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

Ah, the elusive degree card is played

Knowledge and wisdom do not go hand in hand

Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Well said.

[midnight (Darrin)]

Originally Posted by mswhin63

This is what I was thinking too. Both are getting the opportunity to use their technologies. For consistent power generation the Hybrid system seems to be the best though. I suppose the PV system will need some backup for those dark days.

Consistent power generation is a real problem for renewables. PV and wind are shockers because electrically they are quite noisy and in a large numbers do begin to affect grid stability. PV is perhaps the worst because it subject to higher frequency power fluctuations as the PV output is a function of not only sunlight but temperature. Wind at least has some rotational inertia to dampen the effects of pulsation but a wind turbine is much larger. This is generally much less of a problem for DC/inverter type wind turbines as opposed to the standard induction motor type.

The proposal by Areva is electrically more stable than PV in terms of grid connection compliance but on a large scale, PV may be not far behind (if at all). At least with PV, it is a very benign type of installation and reliability would be higher.

Darrin...

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Oops!... epic fail in bold You must be getting your sources from Greg Combet

He he, and he would be a bad source..? . Australia has a AAA credit rating and a low level of net debt both historically and when compared with G-7 economies. While it always needs to be managed, dept is not a dirty word.

Standard of living in Oz is much better. We still pay 40c in a dollar in taxes though. It'd better be good

My point is.. some people (on a national level) are crying such desperate fowl about the state of Australia...when we have just about the best standard of living in the World and comparitively low manageable debt? (that's why we have good stuff )...I imagine because without comparison (or objective thought), they just don't know.

No the union guy seems more qualified. But then again re:solar I'm sure Wayne Swan will love all those mirrors to fix up his comb over. Lighten up dude

And his little short sharp head movements when he speaks

Humph..I am light (140kg) ....arhem, need to lose weight

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Originally Posted by TrevorW

Are the elusive degree card is played

knowledge and wisdom do not go hand in hand

knowledge is knowing a tomarto is a fruit wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad

Originally Posted by renormalised

Well said.

Originally Posted by renormalised

Then he should stick to it (economics), although he displays very little ability in this regard as well. In any case, an honours degree doesn't make you any smarter than the guy down the road, It's barely a foot in the door.

Of course, a degree does not the man make and all sides of parliament have degree holders amongst their ranks but, Martins past union association was placed in brackets as a what would he know caviat (heck he may well have no idea ), so I just added the degree to his resume to balance that out a bit

[avandonk]

Let me get this correct. A bloke from down the road has more knowledge than someone with a degree! A degree with honours makes you more worthy than holding a PhD in the same field. So according to this logic the ignorant have all the answers!

This is the fox news method of suitability for high office. The dumber and more ignorant you are the more you reflect the ideas of your constituents.

I wonder how many of you that spout this absurdity would like to have the 747 you are on, flown by the peanut gallery! Surely they have more common sense and none of this high faluting knowledge of avionics and flying ability and years of training. We will use common sense to fly this plane.

I wish you all a lot of luck. You will need it.

Bert

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by strongmanmike

Australia has a AAA credit rating and a low level of net debt both historically and when compared with G-7 economies.

Mate we're 70 billions in the red (started from +80billions) just in 3 years, 11 for NSW only.

Originally Posted by strongmanmike

While it always needs to be managed, dept is not a dirty word. My point is.. some people (on a national level) are crying such desperate fowl about the state of Australia...when we have just about the best standard of living in the World and comparitively low manageable debt? (that's why we have good stuff )...I imagine because without comparison (or objective thought), they just don't know.

Agreed but it doesn't mean we gotta keep p|ssing money away in BS like we have been in the past 3 yrs and like we still do at the moment. Then the only way to fix it is tax us more. We'd better get some people who understand economy at the reins and that don't cook the books. Regardless of politic side. I'm easy. There are some smart people on both sides.

There is one engine in Oz. Mining and resources. Why don't we tap in that and create a viable domestic manufacturing industry (cars comes to mind amongst other things), employ people, fix our water needs, produce, export then worry about saving the world later?

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Sorry Bryan, some off topic posts have appeared in your thread .

If you had used a differnet thread title and had refrained from the irrelevant Union organiser inference, the topic may have been followed a little more closely

Now back to Solar Power generation in Australia and how poor the decission was of who won the deals

Mike

[renormalised (Carl)]

Originally Posted by avandonk

Let me get this correct. A bloke from down the road has more knowledge than someone with a degree! A degree with honours makes you more worthy than holding a PhD in the same field. So according to this logic the ignorant have all the answers!

This is the fox news method of suitability for high office. The dumber and more ignorant you are the more you reflect the ideas of your constituents.

I wonder how many of you that spout this absurdity would like to have the 747 you are on, flown by the peanut gallery! Surely they have more common sense and none of this high faluting knowledge of avionics and flying ability and years of training. We will use common sense to fly this plane.

I wish you all a lot of luck. You will need it.

Bert

No, but that's not what I was getting at. You can have all the degrees in the world and letters after your name, but that makes you no wiser than anyone else. Just means you've spent more time with your head in books than the other guy. Knowledge is not wisdom, nor does it make a man anymore honest, law abiding, compassionate or anything else. Having knowledge doesn't mean you're going to make all the right decisions about any given situation or event. History is replete with so called knowledgeable men making some horrifically stupid decisions. Even wise men can make stupid decisions. We're all but human, so to speak, and not infallible.

Knowledge, tempered with wisdom and common sense is the ideal path. But it's something which is unfortunately lacking in most politicians, because very few have common sense and even fewer are wise enough to be true leaders.