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08-06-2011, 08:47 AM
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Love the moonless nights!
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BTW the next episode is the last for 6 months.
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08-06-2011, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by EddieDog
Ken, I too watched the original series in '65, I was ummm, errrr, 19. I think the criticism you make, much of it warrented, is what turned it into an immediate cult hit. Yes, tight budged resulted in poor props, heck - were it NOT for props then all the doors would have fallen in each time they were closed. As others have written, that was part of the charm of the series, so too the gross scientific innacuracies and plot deficiencies. And yet...I have just watched a heap of the original William Hartnell series and was quite supprised at a number of scientific gadgets they had that only now are mainstream. Re-watcning I now have far more regard For the Late Mr Hartnell and his acting skills then I realised at the time. Jon Pertwee was, to me and many, the quintisenntial Dr Who, though for others might argue it was Tom Baker. I have enjoyed them all. When finally the Beeb got the rights back, I wondered just how the new lead would manage. Christopher Eccleston did a superb job in 'Regenerating' the character. David Tennet made it his own, whilst Matt Smith has yet to grow on me but I'm willing to give him more time.
The modern series all have spectacular special effects undreamed of in the '60's. But I feel that much of the original charam has been lost. In those days it was either Dr Who or Star Treck. Decades later some of us managed to accept both. I will be watching the new series.
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I reckon the best Doctors in order of my opinion are:
1: Jon Pertwee
Even with poor budget and special effect I think Pertwee was the only actor to bring real credibility to the show as serious SciFi
2. Christopher Eccleston
Eccleston really reinvigorated the show from the "lost years" after Tom Baker with a similar seriousness to the Pertwee years backed by much better budget and effects
3. David Tennant
Great follow on to Eccleston however some of the episodes seem to come adrift along the way and revert to a style that reminded of the Syvester McCoy primary school audience
4: Tom Baker
Introduced a great blend of seriousness and humour to the show and opened up the Doctor character
At this stage the show seems to have reverted to a show targetted primarily at a primary school audience some flashy though cheesy CGI effects and a lot of nonsence an ramblings to fill the scripts.
It has lost a lot of the elements and reinvigoration that Eccleston and Tennant achieved.
Matt Smith is a pretty poor "serious" doctor character and the companions are also a big letdown over all of the prior Pertwee, Tom Baker, Eccleston and Tennant companions (apart from Donna).
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08-06-2011, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by issdaol
I reckon the best Doctors in order of my opinion are:
At this stage the show seems to have reverted to a show targetted primarily at a primary school audience some flashy though cheesy CGI effects and a lot of nonsence an ramblings to fill the scripts.
It has lost a lot of the elements and reinvigoration that Eccleston and Tennant achieved.
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I couldn't disagree more with the above but hey everyone has an opinion.
With Steven Moffatt in charge I find the scripts are generally tighter and there is a lot more depth and integration from episode to episode than Russell T Davies tenure. Russell T was keen on spectacle and scale, you were guaranteed a 2 or 3 part finale that would blow your socks off, trouble was I had no more socks for David Tennant's final finale. Steven M to me prefers a really good story. I look at it as the difference between an album with several hits and a few fillers compared to a well crafted concept album. I like Matt Smith's portrayal of The Doctor, he really has brought his own feel. I also like Amy Pond, I sense that we don't really understand her yet. The character who annoys me the most in the current series is Rory, he may be a necessary foil though.
One thing for sure, after so many years in the wilderness it is good to have well written and acted Dr Who back for the foreseeable future.
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08-06-2011, 07:30 PM
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Dr Who is such a long running show that there is bound to be many different opinions across different generations, however it is great to hear everyones opinions :-)
The show has always had great potential but has always been held back by budget and some Doctors have been better than others and the same goes for the companions.
The companions that really annoyed me the most are:
1. Donna
2. Rory
The question is what are they planning to do for the Doctors final regeneration ?? Will the Evil Valeyard personality finally appear ?? :-)
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08-06-2011, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gallifreyboy
I couldn't disagree more with the above but hey everyone has an opinion.
With Steven Moffatt in charge I find the scripts are generally tighter and there is a lot more depth and integration from episode to episode than Russell T Davies tenure. Russell T was keen on spectacle and scale, you were guaranteed a 2 or 3 part finale that would blow your socks off, trouble was I had no more socks for David Tennant's final finale. Steven M to me prefers a really good story. I look at it as the difference between an album with several hits and a few fillers compared to a well crafted concept album. I like Matt Smith's portrayal of The Doctor, he really has brought his own feel. I also like Amy Pond, I sense that we don't really understand her yet. The character who annoys me the most in the current series is Rory, he may be a necessary foil though.
One thing for sure, after so many years in the wilderness it is good to have well written and acted Dr Who back for the foreseeable future.
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I tend to agree with Phil. Maybe its a generation thing. I find much of today's Dr Who very dark and lacking the humour and spontaneity and charm of the past. I'm not at all keen on either Amy Pond or Rory. And still trying to get to grips with Matt Smith.
Eddie
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08-06-2011, 08:04 PM
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Love the moonless nights!
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I just like Dr Who!
Everyone is different, everyone is good.
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12-06-2011, 03:09 PM
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OMG, I did not see that coming!!!
Season now over for quite awhile.
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12-06-2011, 03:27 PM
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Simply awesome, I loved every second of it, and what a twist at the end.
It's going to be a long wait until the next series.
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12-06-2011, 04:02 PM
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The serenity...
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Saw it coming but still loved every minute.
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12-06-2011, 04:03 PM
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The serenity...
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I should clarify: I saw it coming that River was the baby but not that she is somehow timelord...
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12-06-2011, 04:12 PM
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I've found the scripts in this series to be excellent except for the pirates. Quite intriguing with the ongoing puzzles. Could well do without the silly intro by Amy with the opening titles. Seems quite pointless to me.
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12-06-2011, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by EddieDog
I'm not at all keen on either Amy Pond
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Have you not looked at her skirts or lack of?
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12-06-2011, 04:58 PM
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Have you not looked at her skirts or lack of? 
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Ah, no.
I agree, this series has been great.
Give 'Outcasts' a go everyone, it is great, though already cancelled.
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12-06-2011, 06:39 PM
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I agree with "Outcasts" Liz, it has me hooked.
It's sad to watch and enjoy it knowing that it has already been canned.
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12-06-2011, 08:05 PM
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The serenity...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy
I've found the scripts in this series to be excellent except for the pirates. Quite intriguing with the ongoing puzzles. Could well do without the silly intro by Amy with the opening titles. Seems quite pointless to me.
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My kids enjoyed the Pirates episode the most and being newer to the series in general they also enjoy the opening credits.
Each person is different...
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03-09-2011, 08:24 PM
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I nearly missed tonights episode (think I missed last weeks??) but what an excellent episode!!! Welcome back Dr Who!!
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04-09-2011, 12:15 PM
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I am a Dr. WHO fan and Have watched his Show -When I was about 9 or 10 years old right up to now -Tony
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04-09-2011, 06:09 PM
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I watched last night but it a bit wierd.....again.
River Song is Amy's daughter ?????????????????
Adrian
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04-09-2011, 06:45 PM
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An excellent episode.
I loved every second of it.
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04-09-2011, 08:42 PM
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It was an awesome episode!
River gave up the rest of her regenerations to save the Doctor! We thought Matt Smith was gonna change due to all the speculation he was leaving the show, thank goodness he didn't.
So what now for River, does she still kill the Doctor on the beach, or is it really the Doctor or his flesh avatar? 
LOL, spoilers!!
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