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Old 03-03-2011, 09:47 PM
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Thors Helmet 8 hours CDK

I took this a while ago during a period of clear weather.

This has some SII, Ha as well as LRGB in it. I took some O111 as well but it does not add much and so I did not include it.

Planewave CDK 17, Paramount ME, FLI Proline 16803, Astrodon Gen 11 filters.

SII Ha LRGB 50 60 210 40 50 50.

http://upload.pbase.com/image/132908177

I made a breakthrough in how I do flat fields with this setup and this enabled me to process this image. The original processing was not bringing out the detail due to vignetting and poor flats.

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Old 03-03-2011, 09:51 PM
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Greg,

That is just sensational.

BUT, you have been very heavy handed with your masking -- there is very clear delineation between boundaries. Time to Gaussian blur or deal with the "seams" in a different way.

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Old 03-03-2011, 09:59 PM
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That's just epic
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:16 PM
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That has clearly set the benchmark. Awesome image.
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Old 03-03-2011, 10:40 PM
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Hummm...sorry to say it Greg but there is something not quite right here.

The sharp diagonal features I have never seen in *any* other images of Thor's Helmet, amateur or Pro, hence I strongly suspect they are processing or gradient artifacts rather than real structures...

There is some great data there, you just need to tease it out.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:03 PM
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My first impression was wow, then I noticed those straight edged triangular shapped sun ray like red swaths and thought huh? ...they look strange.

If they are not processing artifacts then this is a spectacular image, even if they are, bah who casres, still looks good

Again I love the grand scale of your presentations with this new scope, real imapct there.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:08 PM
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A searchlight in the night. Just love the dramatic effect and a superb photo. Artifact or not - its a great image.
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:19 PM
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That has clearly set the benchmark. Awesome image.
Thanks Peter.

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Hummm...sorry to say it Greg but there is something not quite right here.

The sharp diagonal features I have never seen in *any* other images of Thor's Helmet, amateur or Pro, hence I strongly suspect they are processing or gradient artifacts rather than real structures...

There is some great data there, you just need to tease it out.
Yes there was an error in several of the masks. It got painted when it should not have. I've corrected it now and it looks more normal.

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My first impression was wow, then I noticed those straight edged triangular shapped sun ray like red swaths and thought huh? ...they look strange.

If they are not processing artifacts then this is a spectacular image, even if they are, bah who casres, still looks good

Again I love the grand scale of your presentations with this new scope, real imapct there.

Mike
I did a repro of it as Humi picked up the problem with some of the masks. They had an error in them. There are some diagonal lines up in the top blue area of nebula. I think this is streaks from a bright star out of the FOV or at least I suspect they are. I have since flocked the shroud of my secondary and Planewave are making me a secondary shroud with a baffle machined in. Stray light reflections from bright out of field stars has been a weak point with this scope. Its really the only problem I have had with it so if the flocking or new shroud helps there it will be great.

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A searchlight in the night. Just love the dramatic effect and a superb photo. Artifact or not - its a great image.
Thanks Allan. The repro is still dramatic I hope.

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Old 03-03-2011, 11:32 PM
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Thats a fine result, did not think this had much S2 in it, I got quite a bit of O3 in my attempt.

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Ah huh! they were imposters, I knew it

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Excellent work, Greg
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What a beautiful image! beautiful colors and shades.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:51 AM
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Blimey, what an awesome image.

Excellent work Greg
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Old 04-03-2011, 05:37 AM
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Good show Greg stunning shot,glad to see you worked out your flat fields well done
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Pretty fine image with lots of depth.

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Old 04-03-2011, 07:18 AM
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Very nice image Greg showing the outer regions well. Thanks for the view.
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Old 04-03-2011, 07:44 AM
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Wow, such a difficult object and so many details and nice colours.

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:22 AM
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Thats a fine result, did not think this had much S2 in it, I got quite a bit of O3 in my attempt.

John.
Thanks John. Yes SII was quite detailed. I had the SII filter in by mistake mislabelling it as Ha. They look similar as filters physically. OIII had the 2 arms a bit and nothing else in mine (assuming of course I labelled the filters correctly!! I must get a 7 position filter wheel at some point.

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Ah huh! they were imposters, I knew it

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Yeah, hopefully fixed now. I was also told by one guy the carbon fibre struts can cause reflections and to put black material over the ones above the mirror.

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Excellent work, Greg
Thanks for that. I was happy to get the image as it wasn't looking too promising at the start before I worked out a good flat routine.

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What a beautiful image! beautiful colors and shades.
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Thanks Fabio. Cheers mate,

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Blimey, what an awesome image.

Excellent work Greg
Thanks Ric. It probably is my most involved processing on any image to date. A few new techniques came in handy.

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Good show Greg stunning shot,glad to see you worked out your flat fields well done
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Yes the flats sorted are vital with this scope more so than any other I have used. Without a good flats routine you'll be throwing out a lot of images with this big 16803 chip.

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Pretty fine image with lots of depth.

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Thanks Frank. The 17 inches of aperture really gets a lot of depth. I am pleased that aperture did rule in this instance.

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Very nice image Greg showing the outer regions well. Thanks for the view.
Thanks Lester. They came out better than I expected.

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Wow, such a difficult object and so many details and nice colours.

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Thanks Werner. It is a difficult object being so dim.

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Old 04-03-2011, 01:27 PM
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Ah! Now the painted masks are gone, that's much better!
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