Call to ban children from Facebook - Page 3

Jen · #41 12-02-2011, 11:49 AM

oh dont get me started on facebook
I am a facebook user and it does has its pros and cons
Its what these kids put on there sometimes way too much information i have had to pull my 15 year old daughter up on way too many occasions on the rubbish she posts is very upsetting to see as a mother i thought i raised her much better than that and yes she has been bullied on there too Which i had to attend to Then i noticed she even had her mobile number on there i can only image what sort of people she has be in touch with And now i have a new thing to deal with i found out last night she has a 22 year old boyfriend which she met through facebook help i just dont know what to do with her now
If we ban them from facebook there is plenty of other ways on the net to socialise anyway
Not a happy jen today

TrevorW · #42 12-02-2011, 12:38 PM

22 yo better warn her that he could go to jail as she is under the age of consent.

Jen this is a typical example of what can happen because of Facebook.

In the good old days if we wanted to socialise we had friends we met at school we talked, played music, danced, got involved in sports, played pinball or pool, rode our bikes, made up games and by 15 a lot of us worked, paid board, went to the pub, met nice girls, got married and settled down.

Graffiti, vandalism, illegal drugs, anti social behaviour etc were not the norm.

As families strive to get more and more we often neglect the fundamental things in life that bind us togethor.

We didn't need mobile phones, email, computers etc to have fun we used our brains and our bodies.

These issues and others are why these types of chat rooms and social networks should be curtailed as should mobile phones etc

OzRob (Rob) · #43 12-02-2011, 12:51 PM

I think it is up to patents to educate and control their children's access to the internet. That said Facebook is a dangerous place even for adults. People put too much personal information on it, IMO.

supernova1965 (Warren) · #44 12-02-2011, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OzRob

I think it is up to patents to educate and control their children's access to the internet. That said Facebook is a dangerous place even for adults. People put too much personal information on it, IMO.

I agree that people put too much personal stuff on FB but that is their fault not FB's we all in the end can think for ourself about what we want the world to know about us

marki · #45 12-02-2011, 01:02 PM

If you ban face book you will have to take away their mobile phones and from my experience you will not get parental support on that one. Education is the key and the college I teach at hires cyber saftey experts to come in and talk to the kids about the pitt falls and dangers associated with the net (cyber bullying, self endangerment, sexting etc etc). At one session the presenter was going through facebook hazards and a young girl was being pretty vocal about what she was saying. less then a minute later based on the info she had given on her FB wall, the presenter had her house firmly in the crosshairs of Google Earth which made all of the kids sit up and listen. I bet there were a lot of FB pages updated that night

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Cheers

casstony · #46 12-02-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorW

22 yo better warn her that he could go to jail as she is under the age of consent.

Perhaps a warning to him might scare him off.

Jen · #47 12-02-2011, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OzRob

I think it is up to patents to educate and control their children's access to the internet. That said Facebook is a dangerous place even for adults. People put too much personal information on it, IMO.

Oh i was limiting my daughters internet access and i do educate her of the dangers etc of whats out there in the big wide web but we cant watch them 24/7 they now can get on facebook for free on their mobiles

Telescopeman54 (Steve) · #48 12-02-2011, 01:44 PM

As much as I agree that it should be done, it will never happen. Even so, kids are smart enough to get right by it.

Personally, I'd prefer to ban Face Book totally! I cannot believe how addicted people have become to that thing! I actually have two accounts. One is for my business and I rarely do anything with it. I do post some odd ball news notes about astronomy, but, that's all. I think I may have sent three or four "messages" to people through it. As for my personal account, I find it so useless that I am quite ready to delete it.

CS

Steve

supernova1965 (Warren) · #49 12-02-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Telescopeman54

I'd prefer to ban Face Book totally! I cannot believe how addicted people have become to that thing!

And none of us are addicted to IIS are we

should we ban that also

Jen · #50 12-02-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by supernova1965

And none of us are addicted to IIS are we

should we ban that also

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo never...............

stattonb (Statton) · #51 12-02-2011, 03:35 PM

i think there should be a age limit for facebook i will in no way let me daughter or son jump on there before they are 13 years old and aslong as i can monitor it.

OzRob (Rob) · #52 12-02-2011, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jen

Oh i was limiting my daughters internet access and i do educate her of the dangers etc of whats out there in the big wide web but we cant watch them 24/7 they now can get on facebook for free on their mobiles

I was just talking generally and not in relation to your daughter's situation...

PCH (Paul) · #53 12-02-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stattonb

i think there should be a age limit for facebook i will in no way let me daughter or son jump on there before they are 13 years old and aslong as i can monitor it.

Without appearing disagreeable, I'd be interested to hear exactly how you plan to monitor it.

I don't use it, so I'm not trying to sound flippant. But my kids do, and as I understand it, you can't get transcripts emailed to you or otherwise saved.

So how will you monitor it?

If you plan on hovering over your child while they type that heiroglyphical plop they call conversation, you're going to be the world's biggest pooper. You also may need a lot of patience. Also, as soon as you're not watching, their conversation content will change from Mother Teresa to regular teen stuff instantly. So, as for monitoring, - if anyone can tell me how, I'd be really interested to hear how.

supernova1965 (Warren) · #54 12-02-2011, 08:08 PM

The way I see it and I don't have kids but I think this is valid but if your kids think they have to hide things from you that is where you will run into problems but if they think they can confide in you and tell you anything then you wont have to be standing over their shoulder because you will know what and who they are talking to.

PCH (Paul) · #55 12-02-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by supernova1965

The way I see it and I don't have kids but I think this is valid but if your kids think they have to hide things from you that is where you will run into problems but if they think they can confide in you and tell you anything then you wont have to be standing over their shoulder because you will know what and who they are talking to.

Hmmm - where to start

I'm afraid the real world with kids isn't quite as nice and straightforward as that Warren. The only thing you can safely assume is that they will only tell you what they want you to know, and that they are happy to lie through their teeth, whilst looking like angels, whenever it suits them. I wish you did have kids - then you'd know that what I'm saying is the truth. Sorry to disillusion you

Zaps · #56 12-02-2011, 09:15 PM

Within a year or two facebook will be as defunct and forgotten as the once-mighty myspace and bebo, et al.

There's always another Next Big Thing just around the corner.

multiweb (Marc) · #57 13-02-2011, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaps

Within a year or two facebook will be as defunct and forgotten as the once-mighty myspace and bebo, et al.

There's always another Next Big Thing just around the corner.

I don't think so. Follow the money trail. Socialising networks are here to stay because they're a fantastic tool to collect data and do trending on their users. That alone is marketing gold. FB, Twitter, whatever comes in the future are now set standards adopted by the big retail companies and even some banks now. Believe it or not ING has a facebook page now for customers promotions and rewards!

Mixing secure banking and hacked socialising networking ... nice...

Reading all the posts below there is something that keeps coming up. Lack of control about what for, where from and when kids access the networks and who they talk to. Just forget about the kids. You can extend this line of thinking to any online user. The whole industry needs to be revolutionised at the ISP level. Nobody should be allowed to connect anonimously.

A static IP could be enforced across the board. Then the way you behave online is transparent and it is also the way you behave in real life and everything you say can be traced back to you. You are accountable for your actions just like in real life. Sure, some people will scream privacy laws but hey, good people have nothing to hide.

I don't go in the streets abusing people or trying to break in their houses or filling up their mailboxes with 2 tones of viagra printouts. I'd be in jail. But it's happening all the time in cyberspace.

Zaps · #58 13-02-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by multiweb

I don't think so.

That's what people said about myspace, bebo, et al.

multiweb (Marc) · #59 13-02-2011, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zaps

That's what people said about myspace, bebo, et al.

Well my point was that while myspace & bebo might be on the back burner now, FB and twitter are doing real good. Names are irrelevant. The concept will evolve, be rebranded and is here to say IMHO.

Zaps · #60 13-02-2011, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by multiweb

Well my point was that while myspace & bebo might be on the back burner now, FB and twitter are doing real good. Names are irrelevant. The concept will evolve, be rebranded and is here to say IMHO.

And my point was that "facebook" will fade away, just as myspace and the others did and have, because something "new" and "different" will appear on the scene. Only it won't really be new or different.