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06-02-2011, 11:30 AM
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Nice image H. maybe just a little pink for my liking but each to their own. a larger image will show the image better.
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06-02-2011, 03:40 PM
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Rich,
Thanks, so much, mate.
I can see a reprocess in my future. I had an earlier incarnation that I did, which I spent barely ten minutes on in Photoshop, and it has a lot more depth and colour in it. I will try and emulate that result. It has a 3-dimensional feel to it, too.
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Originally Posted by richardo
Woo hoo, I feel your excitement H..... nothing like it when you put it all together and the colour comes back at you!
Looks really nice, can see the Gem cluster and Mistral neb which look outstanding...... but, could you publish a larger image H ??
This present one with the link I'm really only seeing 2/3 of it on my monitor..
be good to swim around in it some. 
Go on, you've got the real estate, lets really see it
It's great your under way old chap
Talk about patience
All the best
Rich
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Alan,
Thanks, mate.
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Originally Posted by alan meehan
Top shot H,I got to agree with Rich needs a larger image,need to go for a swim with this one.
AL
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Marcus,
Woohoo, thanks! It's a great club to be part of, too!
I agree I can tease more out, it's due for a reprocess already (once my right shoulder stops hurting, haha!)
I didn't blend any hydrogen alpha into the red channel. I did an RGB combine in MaxIm DL. I might actually try just merging individual RGB frames in Photoshop. That way, I can experiment with blending hydrogen alpha into the red channel. At the end of the day, I don't care for scientific accuracy; I'm an artist -- if the image has depth and is aesthetically pleasing, without being /too/ funky, then, I'm happy.
Thank you, sir.
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Originally Posted by marc4darkskies
Great result H!! And welcome to the club!  You should be very pleased with that, it's tricky to do an effective HA blend and avoiding the salmon colours.
You definitely need to display a higher res version though ... full res would be nice!  I want to see PIXELS!
The colour looks spot on to me but I'm suspecting you can tease out some more depth of neb from your HA (?) Did you blend some HA into your RED channel?
Cheers, Marcus
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Greg,
Thanks so much for the advice (and your message, too; will reply to you soon).
Agree with you, it can be saturated more (as per my reply above to Rich).
As for how I combined: I combined RGB in MaxIm DL and stretched. I stretched the luminance and hydrogen alpha frames, as well. Then, saved as TIFFs and sent to Photoshop. In Photoshop, I processed all three data sets separately, with various curves iterations, and vibrance/saturation for the RGB set. So, my final image had three layers. One RGB, one luminance (set to luminosity) and one hydrogen alpha layer set to luminosity at 64% opacity. This seemed to strike the best balance between saturation and overwhelming the field with stars.
It is a learning process, and, one I'm not scared of embracing. I've got a fairly sound understanding of Photoshop (been using it since 1997!) and I'm sure it won't take me long to get to grips with it all.
Thanks, again, mate!
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
A beautiful image Humi. Love it.
You have gotten your stars to look nice. But as Marcus pointed out there could be more of the Ha neb teased out and perhaps a bit more saturation in the neb colours (at least to my taste which is subjective of course). That is the cost of Ha as Luminance. It tends to wash things out and it also tends to make the Ha areas more pinkish again that is fine but is a taste thing also. There are a few schools of thought about how to blend in Ha. I have tended to take some from both plus a bit of my own. I also think the approach varies a bit from image to image. I am happy to PM you some approaches. My current view is Ha is a beast that needs to be reined in otherwise it dominates the image too much. Yours is nicely controlled from that viewpoint.
How did you combine your LRGB? That can make a fairly big difference to the image as well depending on how it is done.
Fabulous first light.
Greg.
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Jeanette,
Are you describing yourself there?
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by jjjnettie
hmmmmm yes, it's divine.....
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06-02-2011, 03:46 PM
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Rob,
Thanks! I'm glad I got it all working, too. Just waiting on my RoboFocus to be repaired/replace and then everything will be automated.
It is such a joy to work with data that is clean and free of perceptible noise. Although, this could just mean I'm not stretching aggressively enough. Time will tell in future reprocess jobs.
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by RobF
Congratulations Humayun - so glad you've got it all off the ground. That doesn't look good enough for first light though. Please throw away 2/3 or your subs, apply some gaussian blur to what's left, then recombine, then excessively sharpen (to make it look like something the rest of us might have produced!  )
Seriously though, that's just candy to the eye - pretty pretty please can we see a higher res?
Edit: Oops - you did of course link to a bit higher res - just drinking it in now..... 
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Doug,
Nice choice of words, lol.
Thanks so much, mate! This should have happened at Border Stargaze last year (on a different object, perhaps), but, anyway, the ball's rolling now!
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Originally Posted by Hagar
Very nice H, I am glad to see you have final lost your virginity with this rig. It has definitely been too long between drinks. I can say one thing. You have started with a bang and set the bar pretty high for your followup images.
Good stuff Mate. Keep it up.
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Trevor,
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by TrevorW
Nice H but I'm with Marc, need a higher res version
thanks
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Martin,
Thanking you!
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Originally Posted by mill
Excellent first light H 
Could you please post a full res picture?
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Dr. Paul,
Thanks, heaps!
Have taken your advice on board and will be applied in a future reprocess.
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Originally Posted by CoolhandJo
Nice image. Great capture and FOV. I usually add Ha to L and also to R at different blends - I feel it tends to give a more "red" than "Pink". But, Eta tends to give the colours you have produced regardless (as can be seen in the blue stars also). Great excellent monumental first light effort!
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Cheers.
H
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06-02-2011, 03:59 PM
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David,
Thanks, mate. Glad you liked it.
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Originally Posted by DavidU
Beautiful H ! breath taking.
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David,
Thanks! Go on, you know you want to get a monochrome CCD. Despite the fact that it's been six months in between drinks for you (read your other post). I think I'd be happy if I'm able to produce a coloured image once every two months. I'm already thinking of doing hydrogen alpha mosaics for the moonlit periods.
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Originally Posted by DavidTrap
Well done H - you are making it seriously hard for me to refrain from purchasing a monochrome CCD...
I like the higher res version, but an even higher one would be worth it for this fine image.
Cheers
DT
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Troy,
Thanks, heaps, bro. I think it came out alright.
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Originally Posted by troypiggo
Wonderful result. I can understand the excitement after having the gear and finally being able to use it.
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Fred,
I still remember what you said to me at IISAC 2009 -- that I was ready for a monochrome system and that I'd find it easy to make images. It's taken a while, but, I'm there now. Here's to lots of clear skies this year and a few nice images.
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
Very nice indeed H, well balanced, detailed. Pretty exceptional for a 1st time use of Ha, cam, software, it all came together well.
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Ken,
Wow, thank you so much, sir!
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Originally Posted by Ken Crawford
Outstanding first light!! I can hear the excitment in your post and your efforst were well worth it.
congrats!
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Cheers.
H
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06-02-2011, 04:04 PM
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Darren,
I can't begin to tell you how happy I was when everything came together. When the RGB combine appeared in MaxIm DL, it was like a revelation, haha! Thanks!
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Originally Posted by desler
Oh H, what a ripper, must be pleasing afetr such a long wait. Can't wait to go swimming in the full res version.
Darren
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Alex,
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by alexch
Nice one, H!
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Rolf,
So glad you like the colour and framing -- you just have to ask Frank how much deliberation I put into the initial framing. The goal was to cover NGC 3293 as well as the veils on the right-hand side, and have it all set in a way which was aesthetically pleasing. Once the framing was done, PinPoint LE did the rest in between focusing runs and changing filters and shooting over the various nights.
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Originally Posted by SkyViking
That's amazing H, very well executed with beautiful framing and I very much like the soft colours in this image.
Now for some crops and a full res version 
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Mark,
Thank you, mate, I am very happy!
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Originally Posted by batema
That does look wonderful. congrats and have fun with the new toys.
Mark
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Paul,
Thanks! That would be the hydrogen alpha washing through, I suspect. I am ready for a reprocess soon.
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Originally Posted by Paul Haese
Nice image H. maybe just a little pink for my liking but each to their own. a larger image will show the image better.
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Thank you, everyone. What a blast!
H
Last edited by Octane; 06-02-2011 at 07:48 PM.
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06-02-2011, 04:05 PM
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You guys are such a pain! By popular demand, here's a high resolution version.
50% resolution.
Hope you like it.
H
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06-02-2011, 06:04 PM
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H,
The high res wont all fit on my screen so lower res please (I'm only kidding everyone!).
I've just come back from a long weekend and just read this post with the dedication.
Lisa says thank you, how lovely (she was very impressed)
I say where's my 20% !!!
Ok for you 15% but final offer!
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kidding
pleasure always
great result on the image, I expected no less.
well done mate
frank
Thanks H
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06-02-2011, 06:54 PM
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Now that's what I'm Talking about
Been swimming around the hi res version and yes, very B<**#dy nice I must say.
Once again... great first light H!
All the best
Rich
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06-02-2011, 07:47 PM
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Aah thanks H, what a glorious view at the higher resolution! Incredible for a first light really. I think this is one of the finer Eta Carinae images I have seen. Delightfully understated while full of details and, as you know, perfectly framed  Looking forward to 2nd light, whatever it might be!
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06-02-2011, 10:24 PM
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Humi.....
Well, if you are going to image the boring'ol Eta Carina Nebula it had better be a good one, if you are going to post a first light it is good if it is a cracker image...and mate you have done both here
Superb result, beautifully balanced and believable image. Your DSLR images were amongst the best now you can see this same quality but better with the mono CCD, top stuff.
It may have taken a year but it was worth the wait.
Thanks for the view t'was a real pleasure...I don't use this imoticon very often and it must be a cracker and reeeeeeeeeeaallly warranted so here you go...
Mike
PS. The 50% image size should be your standard now, the first image size you posted was just a tease.
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06-02-2011, 10:32 PM
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Thanks H for the bigger one shows up the detail really well
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06-02-2011, 10:53 PM
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The larger version is fabulous. Great star colours and nice rich nebula colours. You got a great balance there.
Greg.
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07-02-2011, 01:00 AM
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Ok H,It's a nice shot, well composed,good color, but over 10 hrs on eta.....It's time to tie your hair back,get out of safe mode mate and really show what you can do with this shot! a bit harsh? not for someone with your talent !!
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07-02-2011, 08:57 AM
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Real nice first light. Loved the higher res version.
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07-02-2011, 10:38 AM
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Wow H, that is awesome! Truly stunning work mate!
Cheers Daniel.
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07-02-2011, 11:27 AM
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I have detailed files....
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Hi H,
Oh no! That image just jumped onto my desktop! How did that happen?????
Absolute Zero Cool image mate, -273 degrees below!!!
Might have to start calling you Zero Degrees Kelvin....
Or perhaps just Kelvin for short.
Divine work
Cheers
Chris
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12-02-2011, 11:10 PM
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Frank,
Haha!
OK, for you, 25%
Cheers, mate.
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Originally Posted by spearo
H,
The high res wont all fit on my screen so lower res please (I'm only kidding everyone!).
I've just come back from a long weekend and just read this post with the dedication.
Lisa says thank you, how lovely (she was very impressed)
I say where's my 20% !!!
Ok for you 15% but final offer!
:]
kidding
pleasure always
great result on the image, I expected no less.
well done mate
frank
Thanks H
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Rich,
Thanks, sir. Glad it past the test. : D
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Originally Posted by richardo
Now that's what I'm Talking about
Been swimming around the hi res version and yes, very B<**#dy nice I must say.
Once again... great first light H!
All the best
Rich
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Rolf,
You're far too kind. Thank you! I just need time to reprocess it; I know I can cultivate more out of it.
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Originally Posted by SkyViking
Aah thanks H, what a glorious view at the higher resolution! Incredible for a first light really. I think this is one of the finer Eta Carinae images I have seen. Delightfully understated while full of details and, as you know, perfectly framed  Looking forward to 2nd light, whatever it might be!
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Mike,
Yikes, high praise, indeed.
And, yeah, I'll present 50% resolution images from now on as a matter of course. Not for my terrestrial/landscape stuff, though. People can buy that if they want to see detail. : P
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Humi.....
Well, if you are going to image the boring'ol Eta Carina Nebula it had better be a good one, if you are going to post a first light it is good if it is a cracker image...and mate you have done both here
Superb result, beautifully balanced and believable image. Your DSLR images were amongst the best now you can see this same quality but better with the mono CCD, top stuff.
It may have taken a year but it was worth the wait.
Thanks for the view t'was a real pleasure...I don't use this imoticon very often and it must be a cracker and reeeeeeeeeeaallly warranted so here you go...
Mike
PS. The 50% image size should be your standard now, the first image size you posted was just a tease.
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Trevor,
Cheers, hope you enjoyed the fruits of my labour.
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Originally Posted by TrevorW
Thanks H for the bigger one shows up the detail really well
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H
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12-02-2011, 11:14 PM
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Greg,
Cheers, mate. Glad you like it! Itching for a reprocess!
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
The larger version is fabulous. Great star colours and nice rich nebula colours. You got a great balance there.
Greg.
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Louie,
I know, I know. I can do better. I should perhaps have waited until it was a corker. But, that'll be round 2!
I appreciate the constructive criticism. Glad to know you think I can do better.
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Originally Posted by atalas
Ok H,It's a nice shot, well composed,good color, but over 10 hrs on eta.....It's time to tie your hair back,get out of safe mode mate and really show what you can do with this shot! a bit harsh? not for someone with your talent !!
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Marc,
Thanks, mate!
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Originally Posted by multiweb
Real nice first light. Loved the higher res version. 
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Daniel,
Cheers, sir!
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Originally Posted by danielsun
Wow H, that is awesome! Truly stunning work mate!
Cheers Daniel.
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Chris,
haha, lots of love!
More to come as time/weather allows.
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Originally Posted by Screwdriverone
Hi H,
Oh no! That image just jumped onto my desktop! How did that happen?????
Absolute Zero Cool image mate, -273 degrees below!!!
Might have to start calling you Zero Degrees Kelvin....
Or perhaps just Kelvin for short.
Divine work
Cheers
Chris
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Thanks, everyone, for looking and commenting. Glad to know I'm on the right path!
H
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14-02-2011, 06:39 AM
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Beautiful image, H. Lovely first light.
This image is now IOTW.
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14-02-2011, 08:46 AM
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 H got to be the best eta i have seen go to the top of the class well done.Larger image is awsome.
AL
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