Celestron's new EdgeHD Optics scopes - Page 5

g__day (Matthew) · #81 06-08-2009, 11:14 AM

The only way I see this resolving is if a major US firm goes global and opens up offices internationally. If it were say OPTec competing here - do you think its buy prices would be as outrageous as local developers.

rider · #82 06-08-2009, 03:53 PM

There might be a short term up-side to this. I walk past the Extravision warehouse in Murrarrie Brisbane at luchtime, and there are still a large number of Celestron cartons inside.
I wonder if they would accept a fire-sale price to get one out the door?

AlexN · #83 06-08-2009, 05:37 PM

I've been there once or twice myself Rider.. I too wonder if you could walk in off the street and ask how much for that Celestron XX you have there??

Hrmm.. Or are you insinuating that we set the rear of the warehouse on fire and then run round the front offering people assistance in evacuation "for a price!!"

hahahahha

< < Above comment is a joke, not to be taken seriously at all... /End Disclaimer. > >

toc (Tim) · #84 06-08-2009, 06:22 PM

Is there some governing body that can look at this? something like the ACCC?

marki · #85 06-08-2009, 07:09 PM

Guys why fret. Just let them spend a truckload on advertising and don't buy anything even remotely celestron. It won't take long for prices to come crashing down.

Mark

el_draco (Rom) · #86 29-04-2010, 06:41 PM

The base reality here is that this is anti-competitive behaviour, which in most instances is illegal. We are supposed to have a free trade agreement with the Yanks... laughable. I am in the market for a new scope. I like Celestron but I dont like getting ripped off.

AstroJunk (Jonathan) · #87 29-04-2010, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el_draco

The base reality here is that this is anti-competitive behaviour, which in most instances is illegal. We are supposed to have a free trade agreement with the Yanks... laughable. I am in the market for a new scope. I like Celestron but I dont like getting ripped off.

Nothing illegal here. The supplier is simply stopping their local retailers from shipping abroad. They are allowed to do that, no matter how annoying we find it. We get the free choice of buying at vastly over inflated prices or not. I chose not.

Moon (James) · #88 11-05-2010, 04:17 PM

Check out the sample images:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthrea...Number=3798500

Amazing results really when you consider the size of the chip....
To me it looks similar to CDK quality.

James

Edit: I just noticed this link was already posted! Sorry....

gregbradley · #89 11-05-2010, 04:25 PM

I am surprised by this result. Celestron only claim a much smaller corrected field (up to APS size or 23 x 16mm) than a U16M camera (44 x 44mm) requires (52mm). Unless he cropped the image. I would've expected some coma in the corners but there doesn't appear to be any.

Fabulous result.

Greg.

Moon (James) · #90 11-05-2010, 04:35 PM

Maybe you are right.
FOV (degrees) = 57.3 * Sensor Size (mm) / focal length (mm)
= 0.568 degrees / 34.1 arc min

Plate solve of the M51 image says 21.53 x 23.97 arcminutes

James

Kal (Andrew) · #91 11-05-2010, 04:36 PM

Celestron claim a corrected field 21mm in radius from the center of the FOV (giving a 42mm image circle) (link). Given the 53mm image diagonal of the U16M I think the results are great!

Moon (James) · #92 11-05-2010, 04:39 PM

Nope looks good, the M13 image plate solves to 32.88 x 32.88 arcminutes. Good stuff.

sejanus (Gavin) · #93 01-06-2010, 08:02 PM

An update on the pricing as I've been investigating this a fair bit over the last few days as I mull over my choices for my upcoming EQ mount.

optcorp.com will sell a EdgeHD 9.25" OTA for $1799 usd. This includes free shipping to anywhere in the states.

You then use one of those redirection companies in the states - I was looking at using myusa.com which charges $7 usd a month (or $60 a year).

I believe shipping will be approx $250 usd. They list $275 usd for 50lbs as a idea.

So,

$1799 usd + $250 usd shipping + $7 usd = $2056 usd

= $2477 australian

+ 10% gst
+ $60 handling fee (approx)

total about $2780 aussie landed to your door. Pity the dollar isn't in the high 90's again or I'd do that tonight

Normally $3699 from andrews so at the expense of warranty you'd save a fraction over $900. I haven't done the math but I imagine the saving is greater as you go to the 11" and 14" varieties. It's a similar saving for the normal 11" model which is $1749 usd.

I think the guys at andrews are decent guys and I suspect the blame is with the place they get them from.

The meades are quite a bit better, I think $3199 for the 10" ACF is still pricey, but ok given the local warranty and the excellent support from bintel.

As to whether the celestron is better than the meade I have no idea. You guys prob know better than me in that area!

gb_astro · #94 01-06-2010, 08:22 PM

I would also check whether that $250 freight charge includes getting it through Customs for you. If not, it could cost you another $250 to have the courier company handle all the paper work.

gb.

Moon (James) · #95 01-06-2010, 08:23 PM

There will also be 5% import duty I would say.

Andrews have already sold a few apparently - not sure where they have gone to. Anyone want to own up?

sejanus (Gavin) · #96 01-06-2010, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gb_astro

I would also check whether that $250 freight charge includes getting it through Customs for you. If not, it could cost you another $250 to have the courier company handle all the paper work.

gb.

That was the handling fee I was referring to - basing that of all the camera lenses I've bought from the states (I'm a photog). I've never had a $250 handling fee - it'a always around $48-$60 even on my biggest purchase ($5200 usd).

Failing that though you could do the customs yourself - pretty easy to do though you have to wait 7-10 days extra.

gb_astro · #97 01-06-2010, 09:41 PM

That sounds like a bargain then.
I had a quote on a DM6 mount (about 30lbs) from the states:
USPS, do my own Customs = US$220,
UPS, door to door = US$440.

gb.

sejanus (Gavin) · #98 01-06-2010, 10:14 PM

I've never specifically asked for it - just when I get USPS or fedex via adorama.com when there is customs to be paid they call me to get my credit card info before it lands, and it's always 10% plus a small handling fee.

bigbod (Rod) · #99 04-06-2010, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moon

There will also be 5% import duty I would say.

Andrews have already sold a few apparently - not sure where they have gone to. Anyone want to own up?

I'll own up, I bought a CGEM + EdgeHD 800 from Andrews a few weeks ago. Looking forward to some HyperStar imaging when I get my SX camera and HyperStar lens

I investigated the cost of importing from the US (using a third party service) but at US$2399 + Third-party fee + Exchange Rate (~.90 at the time, now worse) + Import Duty + Shipping (for three large boxes) + No Warranty + Risk to OTA during shipping the savings didn't seem worth it.

I've imported plenty of accessories this way, just wasn't willing to take the chance on the scope itself.

How is it? Isn't hasn't stop raining in Newcastle since I purchased it

sejanus (Gavin) · #**100** 04-06-2010, 05:30 PM

The shipping ended up being $335 (note, I haven't done it - just enquired) and yeah I think I missed the 5% import duty (I don't seem to get hit by this with a lot of my camera lens purchases) so yeah the savings is dropping, I think you'd now save $500-$600 odd and thats getting about the mark where you'd have to say might as well buy it locally.

Anyway I'm obsessed by refractors at the moment so am leaving the sct to a bit later.

Good luck with your scope Rod, they look awesome.