Carina with FSQ106 and Canon 5D MII at a dark sky site.

[multiweb (Marc)]

Originally Posted by Satchmo

On my 1920 X 1200 pixel monitor with the image scaled to fit width the smallest star images are at the pixel level ...it doesn't get any better then that.

Well I would have thought so too. You can see the finger in the keyhole. With that kind of field it's unheard of... so I reckon the stars look pretty good.

[avandonk]

Maybe I should have put up a jpg that falls apart at close inspection where all the stars are just jagged bits of junk.

Then without further thinking we can all say "nice".

I honestly do not care and the comments are taken on board but this is the best I could do with the available data.

When amateurs rubbish an FSQ 106 as far as resolution is concerned I am sincerely doubting their sanity. The fact that this image has more depth than anything put up so far could be the problem.

I will leave you all to ponder my shortcomings.

Bert

[DavidTrap (David)]

Originally Posted by avandonk

When rank amateurs rubbish an FSQ 106 as far as resolution is concerned I am sincerely doubting their sanity.
Bert

Now is that comment really necessary Bert?

DT

[acropolite (Phil)]

Gentlemen, may I remind you to be polite at all times, this is a discussion not a jousting match.

Now to throw my jousting stick in to the ring....

I have to agree with Mark.

At full screen (scaled to just 25% of original size) the large image just slightly overfills my (calibrated) 24 inch screen, I have to agree that at that scale the image is superb, I have not seen better.

[avandonk]

OK I withdraw that remark as I was tired an emotional! Sorry and sorry again. I did allude to my shortcomings.

Bert

[avandonk]

I am seriously thinking of getting a 30" NEC monitor at $3.1k dollars. The 27" monitor I have now is nearly useless as I can never get the colours just correct. There is a better one but that costs $6.4k.

I am sorry if I offended anyone. I am used to a robust exchange of ideas in CSIRO where I worked for thirty years. I have called my boss nearly every name under the sun and vice versa.

I miss those days.

Bert

[h0ughy (David)]

I think it is a brilliant image - looks good on the 7", 12" 14" 15.6", 17" 24" and the 32" monitors I have. Keep up the good work - keeps me sane knowing the universe is appearing in front of me

[DavidTrap (David)]

Originally Posted by avandonk

OK I withdraw that remark as I was tired an emotional! Sorry and sorry again. I did allude to my shortcomings.

Bert

Thank-you Bert.

DT

[avandonk]

That was never the twenty minute argument!
Yes it was!
No it was not!
It was only five minutes!

Hiro a Japanese amateur photographer has collected images at 10,000 ft in Chile next to the big telescopes. He still needs a bit of direction as far as processing data is concerned. But don't we all.

His FSQ 106 and Canon 5D MII is just amazing in his hands. He is a very quick learner.

I am just stunned at the depth and clarity of his data. To collect the very weak blue reflection nebulae that is normally made less pronounced by extinction in the intervening atmosphere of Earth as clearly as you see it in the HDR image is a complete revelation to me.

I did not put this image up to start any arguments. Merely to show what is possible.

By the way even with HDR if you want to see the dim stuff the stars get brighter!

Bert

[strongmanmike (Michael)]

Bert this is a fantastic presentation of this area, the huge number of stars is really impressive and rather than detract from the scene they lift it IMO and showcase the depth of the image, our galaxy is after all full of stars!

As has been mentioned it really must be viewed at full res and then shrunk on your screen to fit, then it looks brilliant.

I pulled it into photoshop and played with curves to reduce the green cast, especially evident in the left half of the image and accentuate the blue a little, the resulting image was full of yellow, orange, white and blue stars with delicate nebulosity visible and the blue reflection nebulsoity was slightly enhanced - it looked beautiful.

WELL DONE

Mike

[Hagar (Doug)]

I can see the quality of the data but not really my cup of tea. Maybe just different.

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

Very nice data Bert. I'm looking at it on my 2560x1440 monitor at 1:1 and it's rather spectacular. As Mark says, the smaller stars are beautifully defined, and the "mess" of stars makes far more sense when seen at 1:1 because they're so clearly defined within the nebulosity. It's almost as though you can see them literally floating in front of the colourful veil behind them Very nicely done.