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12-02-2010, 10:25 AM
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Descent/The Core
I just watched the movie 'Descent" starring Luke Perry. (Don't hang me, I was bored and it was in mums video collection.
Apart from the fact that I had to force myself to watch it because it was so bad, I couldn't help noticing that the theme and plot was IDENTICAL to the more recent movie, "The Core".
Where does this stand on plaidurism? Was it a deliberate remake or was the idea stolen, hoping no-one would notice?
Just curious.
Baz.
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12-02-2010, 10:50 AM
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Plaidurism Barry?
Is that the morbid fear of the Bay City Rollers?
I think you mean plagiarism....
As for the question, dunno, just thought I would take the piss out of you.....
Hey, it's what I do.
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12-02-2010, 11:06 AM
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Tends to be the modus operandi of Hollywood isn't it, no more original ideas so rehash something that's already been done before...
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12-02-2010, 11:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Screwdriverone
Plaidurism Barry?
Is that the morbid fear of the Bay City Rollers?
I think you mean plagiarism....
As for the question, dunno, just thought I would take the piss out of you.....
Hey, it's what I do.
Cheers
Chris
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I speek good inglund.
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12-02-2010, 12:21 PM
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Quote from Ralph Wiggum on the Simpsons;
"Me fail English? That's unpossible"
Cheers
Chris
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12-02-2010, 01:18 PM
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It begs the question as to whether the entertainment value (earnings) justifies the scientific inaccuracies.
Consider two popular sci-fi films that dramatise an impending asteroid impact. Armageddon earned more at the box office but Deep Impact was more accurate scientifically. Presumably then, Armageddon was also more successful in disseminating inaccurate scientific principles.
In a poll of 100s of scientists about bad sci-fi movies, the Core was voted the worst. If Descent simply borrowed from the Core, it was surely a bad error of judgement.
It is very sad indeed when a sci-fi film has little entertainment value as well as little scientific value.
Regards, Rob.
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12-02-2010, 01:22 PM
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Back to OPs original query:
Any IP lawyers chime-in here, AFAIK you can't copyright an idea or plot, only patent it. The patent must be incredibly specific (down to the last detail), so it would cost a good deal more to patent a film than to make it.
I think. But see caution below!
Anyway, both films are rubbish really, but Hilary Swank sort of gives 'Descent' the edge even if she doesn't get her kit off.
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12-02-2010, 05:05 PM
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Anyway, both films are rubbish really, but Hilary Swank sort of gives 'Descent' the edge even if she doesn't get her kit off.[/QUOTE]
She was in "Core" actually
but is this not what movie's are about, just leave your brain at home
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14-02-2010, 01:42 AM
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I've never heard of either of those movies.
Is "Descent" anything to do with the computer game of the same name.
That was a cool game in its time.
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14-02-2010, 05:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorW
Anyway, both films are rubbish really, but Hilary Swank sort of gives 'Descent' the edge even if she doesn't get her kit off.
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She was in "Core" actually
but is this not what movie's are about, just leave your brain at home[/QUOTE]
Trev,
You are correct sir.
See. I already left my brain at home. Other parts of me are more devoted to Hilary (Siiiiiighhhhh).
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14-02-2010, 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodhound31
.... I couldn't help noticing that the theme and plot was IDENTICAL to the more recent movie, "The Core". Was it a deliberate remake or was the idea stolen, hoping no-one would notice?
Just curious.
Baz.
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Dear Baz, granted the "Descent" is as B-movie you can get, I UTTERLY disagree they are the same movie at all. Plot/theme of Descent is essentially zombie monsters lurking in deep caves. "The Core" is about a train-like machine impossibly digging into the earth's core, and then kick-start its rotation... yada, yada...
Hmm... what the frak...!, on the level of implausibility and plotlessness, maybe they are the same...! Although Hilary Swank does lift "The Core" somewhat to upper-B grade. Fox
Last edited by Fox; 14-02-2010 at 11:55 AM.
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14-02-2010, 01:06 PM
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If you were going to steal a plot you think you would steal a good one!
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14-02-2010, 01:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
Dear Baz, granted the "Descent" is as B-movie you can get, I UTTERLY disagree they are the same movie at all. Plot/theme of Descent is essentially zombie monsters lurking in deep caves.
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There are several movies with the title "Descent". The one Baz is talking about is the 2005 made for TV sci-fi movie with Luke Perry, which does have a similar theme to the Core.
Regards, Rob
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14-02-2010, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Screwdriverone
Plaidurism Barry?
Is that the morbid fear of the Bay City Rollers?
I think you mean plagiarism....
As for the question, dunno, just thought I would take the piss out of you.....
Hey, it's what I do.
Cheers
Chris
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14-02-2010, 04:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robh
There are several movies with the title "Descent". The one Baz is talking about is the 2005 made for TV sci-fi movie with Luke Perry, which does have a similar theme to the Core.
Regards, Rob
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Thank you for the correction, and l'll keep a lookout next time I pass by the video store... Fox
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