Speed Cameras

multiweb (Marc) · #1 13-01-2010, 10:34 AM

Apparently as of today most (over 50 so far) red light cameras in Sydney will clock your speed as well. So don't get tempted to pass the orange light in a rush or you'll be flashed.

Kevnool (Kev) · #2 13-01-2010, 10:48 AM

There keeping an eye on you fellas over in Sydney.
Either some people wont obey the laws or someone wants to make a bit of cash.
Cheers Kev.

snowyskiesau · #3 13-01-2010, 11:40 AM

Not a bad thing either.
The cameras are clearly marked so I've no sympathy for anyone who gets caught by them.
If they were hidden cameras, then that's a different issue...

Octane (Humayun) · #4 13-01-2010, 12:06 PM

Marc,

Every red light camera is also a speed camera down here.

You get used to them. I have been done once, as I completely forgot. I sped up to get through an amber signal and got pwnd for doing 68 in a 60 zone. :facepalm:

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multiweb (Marc) · #5 13-01-2010, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Octane

Marc,

Every red light camera is also a speed camera down here.

You get used to them. I have been done once, as I completely forgot. I sped up to get through an amber signal and got pwnd for doing 68 in a 60 zone. :facepalm:

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Yeah... old habits die hard. I tend to speed up if I see an orange light.

I mean not all the time but most of the time you're moving with the flow and if you get caught it's kinda should I go or should I stop and if you have people behind you can't really plonk the car dead stop. That could cause more problems because 99% of the time the bloke behind you is accelerating too.

Gonna have to be careful from now on.

mill (Martin) · #6 13-01-2010, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by multiweb

Yeah... old habits die hard. I tend to speed up if I see an orange light.

I mean not all the time but most of the time you're moving with the flow and if you get caught it's kinda should I go or should I stop and if you have people behind you can't really plonk the car dead stop. That could cause more problems because 99% of the time the bloke behind you is accelerating too.

Gonna have to be careful from now on.

That is where most people go wrong

The orange light means prepare to stop and not go faster

erick (Eric) · #7 13-01-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mill

The orange light means prepare to stop and not go faster

Yep, cause you cannot trust that guy in front of you who spoils the show by stopping when you were so sure you would "make it" (just?)

mojo (Terry) · #8 13-01-2010, 12:46 PM

As a matter of interest has anybody seen any statistics of how many accidents happen because the vehicle was travelling over the speed limit and by how much? That is, how many people have actually died because they were doing 110 instead of 100? Stats for how many were drunk drivers, fell asleep at the wheel, speeding, etc.?

mithrandir (Andrew) · #9 13-01-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mill

That is where most people go wrong

The orange light means prepare to stop and not go faster

Not really. It means stop if reasonable to do so. You try stopping a bike traveling at a legal speed on a wet greasy road with cars around who have no intention of stopping for an orange light.

What really pissed me off was it was a cop on a bike that booked me and made it a court appearance - not an on-the-spot.

mithrandir (Andrew) · #10 13-01-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mojo

As a matter of interest has anybody seen any statistics of how many accidents happen because the vehicle was travelling over the speed limit and by how much? That is, how many people have actually died because they were doing 110 instead of 100? Stats for how many were drunk drivers, fell asleep at the wheel, speeding, etc.?

Of course not. If they had to produce figures on how many accidents were caused only by speed we would see how it is pure revenue raising.

supernova1965 (Warren) · #11 13-01-2010, 02:20 PM

I will only say one thing If no one sped they would make no money from them

bartman (Bart) · #12 13-01-2010, 03:58 PM

Just today at a T- Junction some IDIOT decided to speed up and go thru the amber light at the last moment. I was at the bottom of the T and going to turn right. The car was coming from the right.
My light to turn right was green..... and I started to go b4 I hit the brakes as I noticed he wasn't going to stop!
Luckily the dude behind me was also weary and didn't rear end me....

I have nothing else to say.........
Other than I would either not be writing this post - or - be embroiled in a insurance claim.

Bartman

Jabba (Keenan) · #13 13-01-2010, 04:08 PM

I hate it when you are sitting in the middle of an interesection to turn and there is no signal to turn so you have to wait for oncoming cars to pass first and find a gap... whilst sitting there waiting the lights go orange and the oncoming cars dont seize to stop and your only chance to turn is on a red light :/

That said, I think the speed cameras will work well, even though its a good way to make more money.. I can see it working and it will help stop idiots on the road and help reduce road rage.

multiweb (Marc) · #14 13-01-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mill

That is where most people go wrong

The orange light means prepare to stop and not go faster

Oh I get that no prob. What I'm saying is that if you're doing 60km/h, you're cruising along then the light let's say 50m in front of you turns orange. I'd speed up a bit to go through because I know that if I hit the brakes hard the guy behing me will end up in my boot. So there's a bit of buffer speed wise to clear the intersection. Some of those lights have very short orange and in some cases you have to make a quick decision. So yes this is going to generate a lot of revenues and I suspect more accidents.

You go through a red light then it's wrong of course. Does it matter how fast you went through it? I always check and have a quick look left and right when going through green anyway. An old trick I picked up in Europe

bartman (Bart) · #15 13-01-2010, 05:53 PM

I agree with Marc....
"I know that if I hit the brakes hard the guy behing me will end up in my boot."
and :
"Some of those lights have very short orange"

As I am from Europe too, I know the craziness that happens on the roads over there.
I got my Drivers License here in Perth WA ( yes ....for International IIS mebers, Sydney is an Eastern Suburb of Perth...heehehehheh).

One of many things that stuck into my adolescent brain when going for my license was that " WHEN APPROACHING ANY INTERSECTION, SLOW DOWN!!!!!!! No matter if you have right of way, Green light, etc !!!! "
There could be a police car, ambo or tirefruck approaching!!!!

OR SOME IDIOT TRYING TO RUN THE AMBER LIGHT!!!!!!!!

I'm telling you( people reading this) that I had a near death experience this morning cause of some idiot______________________________ __

___^____^____^.......... ( heartbeat)

Bartman

snowyskiesau · #16 13-01-2010, 06:02 PM

I got my motorcycle license long before I learned to drive so I learned to be paranoid and assume that every driver on the road was out to get me.
This attitude works just as well when behind the wheel

Peter Ward · #17 13-01-2010, 07:22 PM

I actually got a ticket for
"Not stopping on a YELLOW light"

The cop that booked me was basically being a pri_k.

I didn't pay the fine.

The case was heard at the Sutherland Local courts about 3 months later, and I won the case.

The fact that it was wet (a road weather alert had been issued) and I had a P-Plater tailgating my car helped as well.

That said, it was interesting to actually read the statues.

Yellow means "stop" unless the driver thinks it's unsafe to do so.

If I have been stationary, then took off through the yellow I would have lost the case.

mithrandir (Andrew) · #18 13-01-2010, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter Ward

I actually got a ticket for
"Not stopping on a YELLOW light"

The cop that booked me was basically being a pri_k.
...
The fact that it was wet ...

There's a couple of differences.

You in a car.
Me on a bike.

You in an NSW court.
Me in the ACT - with ACT plates and an ACT license.

Agree on the cop being an a******e.

Louwai (Bryan) · #19 13-01-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mithrandir

There's a couple of differences.

You in a car.
Me on a bike.

Agree on the cop being an a******e.

Get some stickier hoops Andrew. Maybe less overall klm, but MUCH better control & stopping.

I run Michie 2CT's. Not he stickiest, but a good all rounder for daily comuting & weekend blast.
I get about 14,000 to 17,000klm out of a rear tyre.

mithrandir (Andrew) · #20 13-01-2010, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Louwai

Get some stickier hoops Andrew. Maybe less overall klm, but MUCH better control & stopping.

I run Michie 2CT's. Not he stickiest, but a good all rounder for daily comuting & weekend blast.
I get about 14,000 to 17,000klm out of a rear tyre.

It's nothing to do with that, Bryan. People on bikes are automatically better targets for cops and courts.

And I don't ride any more. After spending several weeks in hospital, and two operations after I came off it, SWMBO v1 insisted the bike go. SWMBO v2 is of the same opinion.