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04-01-2010, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Wavytone
I agree with Miranda Devine (SMH reviewer).
I'm fairly disappointed that a mainstream movie is released portraying this leftwing loonie view of the military at a time when there are American and Australian soldiers are losing their lives in order to preserve the way of life their countrymen enjoy.
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Wow... that's a long stretch. Can't you guys just enjoy a good standard cowboys vs. indians story set in the future along with wonderful colours and scenery without reading too much into it? Time for a chill pill people.  Relax and enjoy it for its entertainment value.
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04-01-2010, 07:39 PM
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Unfortunately (or fortunately) Miranda Devine and some people (Wavytone for example) on this forum know absolutely nothing about leftist propaganda and what it looks like... If there is one in Avatar, it is really very, very weak.
However, her remarks are political propaganda, quite unprovoked and very, very rightist..
Exactly, why not just enjoy the movie and its visuals, which it is all about?
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04-01-2010, 07:59 PM
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Where is the dark?
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Saw it in 3D and thought it was fantastic.
Story line reminded me of Cowboys and Indians with the Indians winning and letting the Cowboys go away.
Now we wait for the sequel where they return with "the bomb" and nuc them all to get the ore they so much sought after.
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05-01-2010, 09:14 AM
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I saw it in I-MAX 3D last night at Darling Harbour. Massive screen + giant glasses (a la dame edna) . I think the 3D experience is best viewed on a 16:9 ratio in a conventional theater. THe I-MAX screen is too big and you're forever looking up down sideways to follow the action. Was still a thrill though.  That was the third time I saw the movie so I started "looking around" a bit more. Has anybody notices that the human based Avatars have 5 digits on each hands and feet but the Na'vis have weird feet with only 4 fingers in each hands? Like the simpsons?
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05-01-2010, 09:47 AM
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Marc
A far as my research can tell , the 3D version is shown at 1.78:1 ratio including in the IMAX , so you would have some narrow black bars top and bottom ( IMAX screen is 1.43:1 native ratio) . Sounds like you are sitting too close to the screen at IMAX, for your own tastes. I am interested to try the IMAX as I've never seen a 3d film there.
Mark
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05-01-2010, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Satchmo
Marc
A far as my research can tell , the 3D version is shown at 1.78:1 ratio including in the IMAX , so you would have some narrow black bars top and bottom ( IMAX screen is 1.43:1 native ratio) . Sounds like you are sitting too close to the screen at IMAX, for your own tastes. I am interested to try the IMAX as I've never seen a 3d film there.
Mark
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Sounds about right. Yeah I was quite close in the lower part. Row C in the middle. They projected the movie in a very small part of the screen and it was nearly a square area. You could notice the distorsion at the beginning then your brain does the work and you get used to it after 30min or so. Althoug it was big the 3D wasn't as clean as what I experienced in Hoyts Wetherill Park. That had the wow factor. Very clean. I-MAX was somehow blurry in places (edges) and although you had a feel for the 3D depth at times it was messy and hard to make up what was in front or back in busy scenes. It's worth having a look though but try to book a seat as far as you can from the screen.
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05-01-2010, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by multiweb
That was the third time I saw the movie...
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Marc, get a life!
Just Jokies!
EDIT: When I see a movie, I always sit towards the back half of the theatre, so that my eye level is at least centre with the screen, or above centre. Can't stand having to tilt my head up, even a fraction.
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05-01-2010, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by starlooker
Marc, get a life!
Just Jokies! 
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 Yeah... I know  Seriously, the technology to see it in 3D at home is so far away yet I figured I have to max out my cravings before it goes out for good.
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05-01-2010, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by multiweb
They projected the movie in a very small part of the screen and it was nearly a square area. .
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That doesn't make sense: what is the point of using IMAX if they don't use the whole width of the screen and I don't believe they would alter the native aspect ratio? Why did you feel you need to be further away if they were only using a small part of the screen ?
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05-01-2010, 10:58 AM
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That is precisely what I said earlier in the thread.
I've seen stuff at IMAX before, and, it doesn't matter where you sit, it's a royal pain trying to take it all in.
H
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Originally Posted by multiweb
I think the 3D experience is best viewed on a 16:9 ratio in a conventional theater. THe I-MAX screen is too big and you're forever looking up down sideways to follow the action. 
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05-01-2010, 11:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Satchmo
That doesn't make sense: what is the point of using IMAX if they don't use the whole width of the screen and I don't believe they would alter the native aspect ratio? Why did you feel you need to be further away if they were only using a small part of the screen ?
Mark
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I'd say 60% of the screen was used. So you're looking at a small rectangle 4:3 I'd say centered on a huge screen. From the row I was sitting in it with the glasses on it was limit. Very big surface to look at. As H said you can't take it in 100%. If it was using the full screen I doubt you'd be able to see everything unless you sit outside  Don't take my word for it. Book a seat and go see it for yourself but get a spot as far as possible from the screen.
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05-01-2010, 01:15 PM
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I cant wait for it to come out on Blu Ray!
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05-01-2010, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by multiweb
Seriously, the technology to see it in 3D at home is so far away yet I figured I have to max out my cravings before it goes out for good. 
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You can't fool us Marc. We all know you've got the hots for Neytiri!
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05-01-2010, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by multiweb
I'd say 60% of the screen was used. So you're looking at a small rectangle 4:3 I'd say centered on a huge screen. From the row I was sitting in it with the glasses on it was limit..
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So they must not be selling seating on the sides. They couln't expect you to be seated further to the side than the edge of the screen.
Hmm, I'll have to do my homework before I spend the $ at IMAX , but I don't believe that they would crop the aspect to 4:3...you would be missing out of certain proportion of the picture .
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05-01-2010, 02:02 PM
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ze frogginator
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Originally Posted by starlooker
You can't fool us Marc. We all know you've got the hots for Neytiri! 
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Yeah I got her on my Nokia N95 Avatar Scheme
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Originally Posted by Satchmo
So they must not be selling seating on the sides. They couln't expect you to be seated further to the side than the edge of the screen.
Hmm, I'll have to do my homework before I spend the $ at IMAX , but I don't believe that they would crop the aspect to 4:3...you would be missing out of certain proportion of the picture .
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When I said crop I meant resizing. The picture is compressed both in height and width to a ratio of 4:3 visually I'd say. It's still pretty big but it is not covering a big part of the full screen believe me. The full I-MAX seating was sold out for all sessions. Packed to the edges. My recommendation: forget IMAX and enjoy it in a standard 3D cinema. Much better visually.
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05-01-2010, 02:11 PM
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Quickest $1b grossing movie ever just goes to say something everyone who's seen it raves about it, even had a 60+ widow who saw it on the weekend came into work this morning singing it's praises
What gives, ????
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05-01-2010, 02:37 PM
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Trevor,
You'll have to go and see it to understand.
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05-01-2010, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by multiweb
When I said crop I meant resizing. The picture is compressed both in height and width to a ratio of 4:3 visually I'd say.
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I'm sure you are just seeing an optical illusion due to sitting low down , but you may be right. I sometimes watch 16:9 stuff on my computer monitor stretched to 4:3 and it looks very odd indeed so I would be amazed if IMAX were deliberately distorting the aspect ratio for any reason
Its possible they are showing it at 4:3 but you would have a bit of left /right crop to achieve that without distortion of the film.
What my investigation is telling me is that the ReelD system used not by Imax ( using circular polarisation) gives a much cleaner image with no ghosting , and better depth perception. The 3D system used by IMAX is relatively old . I am considering to see it back at Greater Union for my second time and save $9 and big journey
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05-01-2010, 03:24 PM
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H, I've seen it it was very good and will see it again but for a movie that is definitely sci-fi, it seems to be appealing to a wider audience for a lot of of different reasons. My what gives was probably a bit rhetorical
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05-01-2010, 03:25 PM
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Awesome cinema experience  been hanging to see it from the first rumours of its development although I admit I was little nervous when the teaser trailers were released {Stars Wars Phantom menace  }.
Thought the plot could of been more heavier/complex but the overall experience was superb {3D wow }, rivals or probably exceeds the LOTR trilogy for me.
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