On the band wagon - a starless Orions Sword

strongmanmike (Michael) · #1 27-12-2009, 12:46 AM

Well if you can't beat'em...join'em

http://upload.pbase.com/strongmanmik...70808/original

I still think my brain preferes it with stars buuuut I guess I quite like it actually, looks very dramatic really...? Like a space art fine airbrush painting

Here is the close up of the main nebula, without stars:

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike20...71470/original

.....

...thanks Fred

...oh and Jeanette

Mike

Octane (Humayun) · #2 27-12-2009, 01:01 AM

Mike,

Wrong link. Log out of your pbase account and try clicking on the link you've posted here.

Regards,
Humayun

AlexN · #3 27-12-2009, 01:07 AM

Still got a couple of spots to clean up Mike, but it looks very nice.. As you say - I think it gives it a painted sort of appearance...

Its definitely an artsy sort of approach to astro imaging... A lot like narrowband without the crazy colours!

strongmanmike (Michael) · #4 27-12-2009, 01:07 AM

Fixed Humi

Matty P (Matt) · #5 27-12-2009, 01:33 AM

Interesting to see it without stars. Makes it a lot easier to appreciate the complexity of the nebula.

Arty indeed.

strongmanmike (Michael) · #6 27-12-2009, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexN

Still got a couple of spots to clean up Mike, but it looks very nice.. As you say - I think it gives it a painted sort of appearance...

Its definitely an artsy sort of approach to astro imaging... A lot like narrowband without the crazy colours!

Cleaned up

Tis my first go at this actually, and like narrowband imaging becomes, this Vander-starless-haven stuff is pretty fun

Mike

AlexN · #7 27-12-2009, 02:08 AM

The best part Mike, Next time you capture a narrowband data set, and you can't be bothered layering in RGB stars, but you don't want ugly looking narrowband stars... You know what you can do?! Just boot the pesky beggers out the door!

As I mentioned in JJJ's thread, now that the stars are removed, you should have a go at more heavy handed stretching, you dont need to worry about stars bloating or losing colour.. you can sharpen further as you don't have to worry about the little dark rings around stars... Really blast the starless image with a ton of processing and see what you can find!

Hagar (Doug) · #8 27-12-2009, 08:08 AM

I like it with sparkly bits. Just doesn't look the same without stars. I even prefer Orion with difraction spikes.

Ken · #9 27-12-2009, 08:28 AM

The dark filaments look great not sure about the stars, Fred I mean Mike.
Clear skies Ken

telecasterguru (Frank) · #10 27-12-2009, 08:43 AM

I think these starless images are very interesting. I believe they are just as relevant as star shots. Concentrating on the nebulosity gives a new perspective and I don't mind that at all.

Frank

troypiggo (Troy) · #11 27-12-2009, 08:52 AM

Very cool - I'd like to see the results of a starless cluster or galaxy.

Bassnut (Fred) · #12 27-12-2009, 09:30 AM

I like it Mike, dramatic. Almost like a painting you could hang on the wall.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #13 27-12-2009, 11:21 AM

And to remember that you once razzed me Mike for saying "too many stars". I knew what I liked then, and I do now. LOL!

Looks good BTW.

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #14 27-12-2009, 12:06 PM

It's a fun and interesting project for a rainy day.

I'll echo Troy's comment, I'd like to see a starless galaxy.

strongmanmike (Michael) · #15 27-12-2009, 01:48 PM

Cheers for looking and thanks for the replies, those who did

..read'em all but am lazy and wont reply indovidually

Chris, I remember that, you complained that there were too many stars in an image

still sounds hilarious saying it now

...wonder if I could try removing stars from this image of mine...

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike20...82738/original

It would go from being the "Snake Nebula" to the..?.."rectangular window open at night nebula"..?

Dougy com'on man you are iffy about NB, you are iffy about starless, sheesh you gotta throw off those cloths and burn ya imaging bra big fella

Mike

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #16 27-12-2009, 01:57 PM

That's OK Mike - I know that you're just being facetious.

The reason I like semi-starless images is because I consider the nebulous region more important to my sense of wonder - it may not be yours (well - it obviously isn't). Fred's M8 blew me away when I first saw it and still does now. I like the beautiful shapes gas forms - not all the dotty junk in between - that's just me though.

strongmanmike (Michael) · #17 27-12-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omaroo

That's OK Mike - I know that you're just being facetious.

The reason I like semi-starless images is because I consider the nebulous region more important to my sense of wonder - it may not be yours (well - it obviously isn't). Fred's M8 blew me away when I first saw it and still does now. I like the beautiful shapes gas forms - not all the dotty junk in between - that's just me though.

Yeh yeh I know, just joshing around. You are quite right, when the stars are not there your brain sees the nebulosity structure better.

Mike

AlexN · #18 27-12-2009, 08:02 PM

Someone should do a starless milky way wide field..

Or a starless star cluster...

mmmm interesting... (you could fool people by saying you imaged a star cluster and just post a stack of dark subtracted dark frames..

)

h0ughy (David) · #19 27-12-2009, 08:20 PM

ahh the next image for spsp

marc4darkskies (Marcus) · #20 27-12-2009, 11:20 PM

Oh Mike, what are you doing??!! A bit of fun perhaps, but it's a perfectly good way of ruining a perfectly good astroimage IMO!

Minimise them, reduce them - whatever - but please don't erase them!! Call me a fuddy duddy, but when I look at a landscape photo - say a mountain scene with lots of beautiful pine trees in the foreground - I actually WANT to see the trees!!

Cheers, Marcus