Some thoughts on Spelling ! - Page 3

stephenb (Stephen) · #41 11-10-2009, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by marki

Stephen, there can be a large number of reasons why mistakes are made but last time this came up it ended very badly.

Mark

Please read my last post (#20) again. As I stated there is a number of reasons, illiteracy issues, and I am not having a go at people for that. Oh and I didn't start this topic, by the way. It was put up for opinions and I gave mine, which I thought was honest and sincere and diplomatic and I did not denigrate anyone.

Barrykgerdes · #42 11-10-2009, 08:22 AM

I Like to spell correctly but do make many mistakes because I am only a two finger typist and I am often careless in my haste. However there are a few things to think about with spelling.

It is in everyones interest to ensure that spelling is correct for the language in use. Remember the most important asset you can have is knowledge. Knowledge mostly comes from reading what has been done before. If you don't understand the rules of the language you may not get the information that is intended. Remember also that if you belong to the ruling class, keeping the people under you in the dark is the way to control them. Now you know why some goverments do not enforce the rules of spelling in school.

My 2 cents worth
Baz

marki · #43 11-10-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by glenluceskies

Please read my last post (#20) again. As I stated there is a number of reasons, illeteracy issues, and I am not having a go at people for that. Oh and I didn't start this topic, by the way. It was put up for opinions and I gave mine, which I thought was honest and sincere and diplomatic and I did not denigrate anyone.

Stephen I am aware you did not start the thread and my comment about " many reasons" was in support of your comment. I am not having a go at you. This topic comes up fairly frequently and sooner or later someone with a disability gets upset. It is very difficult to correctly interpret the intention of a post simply because we rely so much on body language when communicating with others. My intent is not to have a go at people but rather throw a bucket of water on the fire. When I first started teaching I was silly enough to believe the only thing that seperated students was the amount of work they put in. 15 years on I have learnt alot.

Mark

matt · #44 11-10-2009, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by marki

When I first started teaching I was silly enough to believe the only thing that seperated students was the amount of work they put in. 15 years on I have learnt alot.

Mark

So many possible witty retorts....so little time.

mac (Matt) · #45 11-10-2009, 12:18 PM

Perhaps we could discuss the following next:

its / it's
your / you're
they're / there / their

matt · #46 11-10-2009, 12:22 PM

The misuse of the apostrophe drives me nuts!

marki · #47 11-10-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mac

Perhaps we could discuss the following next:

its / it's
your / you're
they're / there / their

Or to, too, two, weather, whether, our, hour, then, than, effect, affect etc

Mark

mac (Matt) · #48 11-10-2009, 12:25 PM

We are kindred spirits, Matt.

Mark, the 'then' and 'than' thing is strange because they are pronounced differently from each other, but I do see that mistake a lot in the forums.

But it could just be an accent thing.

In the UK, 'beer' and 'bare' are pronounced differently from each other but here in NZ they're pronounced the same. This also applies with 'ferry' and 'fairy'.

marki · #49 11-10-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by matt

So many possible witty retorts....so little time.

Matt, I have seen kids work themselves to the point of complete breakdown, both mentally and physically with very little to show for it. I do not see any humour in this.

Mark

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #50 11-10-2009, 01:01 PM

Spelling and maths have gone downhill - the current Y generation are epic fails imho. God help their kids...

Dave

TrevorW · #51 11-10-2009, 01:03 PM

One could say that English is the most complex language too learn.

I have a spanish/english speaking colleague who has been in our country for several year and still has trouble understanding words and is continually learning new ones.

Learning the fundamentals as a child is important, how we apply words latter in life is often dependant on our employment, but socially as long as we convey the message is all that really matters.

Tolerance is important not the spelling of the words.

Starkler (Geoff) · #52 11-10-2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobson

"Please enlighten me,how do you write a book in Serbia"

They would write it: BUK

Why would you have two "oo" to make one letter when you already have that letter?

And then logic behind it, EWE? Pronounced "U" ? Whats the logic behind it? Its time for change absurd things like that.

The European Union commissioners have announced agreement to adopt English as the preferred language for European communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.They have agreed, however, to some concessions to make English easier for other EU partners to learn.

In the first year, "s" will be used instead of the soft "c". Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy. Also, the hard "c" will be replaced with "k" which will is klear up konfusion.

There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year, when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced by "f". In the third year governments will enkourage the removal of double letters. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of silent "e"s in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as replasing "th" by "z" and "W" by "V".

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o"kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou", and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl. Zer vil b no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand ech ozer. Ze drem vil finali kum tru.

Octane (Humayun) · #53 11-10-2009, 01:07 PM

I love the spelling and grammar mistakes made by those saying how much the misuse of both annoys them.

matt · #54 11-10-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by marki

Matt, I have seen kids work themselves to the point of complete breakdown, both mentally and physically with very little to show for it. I do not see any humour in this.

Mark

Trust me, Mark...my comment is not levelled at the kids.

You might need to look a little harder to find the humour.

bobson (Bob) · #55 11-10-2009, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Octane

I love the spelling and grammar mistakes made by those saying how much the misuse of both annoys them.

stephenb (Stephen) · #56 11-10-2009, 02:59 PM

What it proves is that everyone is not perfect at it, but occasionally an error slips through for any number of reasons.

Mark, fully agreeing with you

And yes, this topic comes up as regular as the "local dealers are ripping up all off" threads. Or should that be "as regularly" ?

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #57 11-10-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorW

One could say that English is the most complex language too learn.

One could say that, yes. The English language has a problem (at least in my eyes) - grammatically, many words do not make any sense whatsoever.

English is a Germanic language - its roots are based in the German language. Anyone who speaks German (or Dutch for that matter) will easily recognise a similarity in many instances. It also has a French, Arabic, Latin & Greek root history as well. It's a ******* language.

If you want to try a complex language, try Gaelige. Two sets of consonants. Two sets of vowels. Pronunciation is dependant in many instances on what consonant/vowel combination is being used in the word in question. The language might not seem logical at first, but it has very specific rules, and they do make sense. Let's try something:

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bean saidh

Can anyone pronounce it correctly (hee hee)! What common English word is derived from it?

Dave

PS I'm semi fluent in German, and trying to learn Gaelige (but it's hard).

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #58 11-10-2009, 04:11 PM

Dave

mac (Matt) · #59 11-10-2009, 04:37 PM

I used to work at Oxford University, and one of the German experts there told me that "life is too short to learn German". So I guess we can all be happy that we, in some form or another, know English.

DavidU (Dave) · #60 11-10-2009, 06:38 PM

You may notice all my posts are short. I cannot spell very well at all, I don't know why. I try very hard .
At work I usually had my own Exec assistant so she always did it for me.
I would love to write nice posts like some do on IIS.