Near Death Experience

FredSnerd (Claude) · #1 02-09-2009, 02:14 PM

Near Death Experience

I hope this subject does not offend anyone but the other day I was reading about near death experiences on Wikipedia.

Fascinating.

Anyone have any interesting stories or ideas on the subject they’d like to share.

Regards

Baron von Richthofen (Vaclav) · #2 02-09-2009, 02:20 PM

How about dead and then coming back

FredSnerd (Claude) · #3 02-09-2009, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vars191

How about dead and then coming back

Yeah sure, thats what I meant

Baron von Richthofen (Vaclav) · #4 02-09-2009, 03:30 PM

About 15 years ago I had heart problem and ended up in CCU
about 1 week after I got back home it happened, I am a light sleeper,
I was a sleep when in middle of a dream I was back to reality and I knew something was wrong, all of a sudden every thing went black and the next instant I pushed my self up off the bed and I was looking down at myself and as I got up I was in another place lying on the ground with this big black dude in a white suite looking down at me with his out stretched hand to help me up saying are you all right, I think he was there to help me
The sky was blue and hills all around and the ground was a red clay and in the middle of this clearing was a round wooden polished building with lots of glass French doors with a wooden deck around it and a wooden roof, there were lots of people there all in white suits and all are smiling and waiting for some thing then a bell rang and all the people including me lined up around the building and all the people were exited, as the people went in side the building there a flash of light, when it was my turn to go it I saw two people sitting there waiting for me, as I got closer I realized they were sending people back to be reborn I then thought of my wife and did not want to go I told them I want to go back to my wife as I could not leave her, they said ok there was a flash of light and I was back in my body wide awake but there is more to this story, this happened at night and the room was lit up, as I got out of bed I realized it was me that was giving off the light it only lasted about five-minute before it faded out
There you have it believe it or not
but it happened to me

FredSnerd (Claude) · #5 02-09-2009, 03:38 PM

Wow, great story

kinetic (Steve) · #6 02-09-2009, 05:11 PM

I once swore at my mother in law when I'd had a few...

Steve

Baron von Richthofen (Vaclav) · #7 02-09-2009, 05:17 PM

And you lived to tell about it
AMAZING

kinetic (Steve) · #8 02-09-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vars191

And you lived to tell about it
AMAZING

You obviously have seen what my mother in law looks like Vars....

Steve

Jen · #9 02-09-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kinetic

I once swore at my mother in law when I'd had a few...

Steve

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #10 02-09-2009, 06:41 PM

I should ask my dad about this, since he actually died on the table when doing a endoscopy last December. Took the Doctors 3 or so minutes to revive him. His blood pressure dropped to zero, even now it's 60/40 when standing and 80/60 when resting.

Dave

FredSnerd (Claude) · #11 02-09-2009, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dpastern

I should ask my dad about this, since he actually died on the table when doing a endoscopy last December. Took the Doctors 3 or so minutes to revive him. His blood pressure dropped to zero, even now it's 60/40 when standing and 80/60 when resting.

Dave

Hey yeah Dave you should ask him. He sounds like a perfect candidate. Whats interesting is how similar the experince tends to be for people. Being drawn to a bright, peaceful light; a loved one that meets and comforts you and a general feeling of peace and oneness with the universe.

As I understand it there is a debate as to whether the experiance is

(i) induced by a chemical in the brain to ease the pain of death or

(ii) an indication of a seperate consciousness that exists seperate from the body (i'm in a hurry to add that its not necessarily a religious thing and people who think thats its (ii) are not necessarily religious (I personally am not religious).

I should also add that I am not advocating (i) or (ii). I just find it all interesting

koputai (Jason) · #12 02-09-2009, 07:10 PM

I had a big accident a few years ago, the write up is here:
http://www.deepdiving.net/incident.html

The treatment has been written up in medical journals, and is very famous in its field.

As far as near death experiences, no, there was no shining light, or deity appearance,
just lots of pain, fear, then resignation and peace. Then there was a chance, and that's
when the fighting started.

Cheers,
Jason.

kinetic (Steve) · #13 02-09-2009, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by koputai

I had a big accident a few years ago, the write up is here:
http://www.deepdiving.net/incident.html

The treatment has been written up in medical journals, and is very famous in its field.

As far as near death experiences, no, there was no shining light, or deity appearance,
just lots of pain, fear, then resignation and peace. Then there was a chance, and that's
when the fighting started.

Cheers,
Jason.

Jason, what a sobering and amazing account.
Knowing nothing about diving, but is this an easy mistake to make
with that rubber valve/gasket you describe?

Is there a check before you dive that would show that malfunctioning?

Thanks for sharing!

Steve

FredSnerd (Claude) · #14 02-09-2009, 07:32 PM

Thats some experiance Jason. Well you've made one decision for me. I'm filling in the pool. Yeah, thanks for sharing

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #15 02-09-2009, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by koputai

I had a big accident a few years ago, the write up is here:
http://www.deepdiving.net/incident.html

The treatment has been written up in medical journals, and is very famous in its field.

As far as near death experiences, no, there was no shining light, or deity appearance,
just lots of pain, fear, then resignation and peace. Then there was a chance, and that's
when the fighting started.

Cheers,
Jason.

Hi Jason,

I had read this report (I follow the activities of your group), and had not realised that was you (should have though - Koputai. I know what that is). I am most impressed you are still diving. A friend of mine, a good careful diver too, got a spinal hit and never went in the water again. It was before dive computers became commonplace.

Now my experience, which is a sort of really light weight version of yours. I was a keen diver, and had started on wreck diving, but on this day in 1980 had only a single tank of air. Due to a combination of having to work down a very long anchor rope, nitrogen narcosis, and stupidity, I ran right out of air at 43 m, on the deck of a hulk off Collaroy called the Meggol (the former HMAS Doomba).

So I dropped the weight belt, and started the long trek up to the air. I'm told my appearance at the surface rather resembled a Poseidon missile. We call it a pop to the top, eh? Good training got me out of it really (thanks Marden) and there was an Oxy-Viva on the boat with a full bottle (thanks Sumner). I drained that of course.

I had inhaled sea water, and was not really with it until we got to the ramp at Rose Bay. The doctor observed me carefully, but I did not have to go in the decompression chamber!! Amazing. I had not been on the bottom long enough.

I immediately went back diving (very nervously) but never went deep again without twin tanks.

So for the rest of it I second Jason - no shining light, just fear and resignation, then a chance. We are still here!!

Cheers, and I really mean it

FredSnerd (Claude) · #16 02-09-2009, 08:36 PM

Jason, Geoff, you blokes make me feel really self concious. I'm 55 and the most dangerous thing I've ever done is talk back to the misses once when I had a few (But shes forgiven me now its ok).

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #17 02-09-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FredSnerd

Jason, Geoff, you blokes make me feel really self concious. I'm 55 and the most dangerous thing I've ever done is talk back to the misses once when I had a few (But shes forgiven me now its ok).

Hi,

That is far more dangerous

Jason's diving is called technical diving, because of the hi-tech gear and advanced procedures, and I've never really tried it.

I once went looking for a wreck at Norah Head and when we arrived at the bottom we banged into it because it was so pitch black dark we could not even see each other. I remember thinking "What the **** am I doing here?"

Cheers

Jules76 (Julian) · #18 02-09-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FredSnerd

Whats interesting is how similar the experince tends to be for people. Being drawn to a bright, peaceful light; a loved one that meets and comforts you and a general feeling of peace and oneness with the universe.

First I just want to say I'm not mocking anyone's experience, but I want to put my take on things. Personally I think it is a chemical thing, similar to dreaming if you like. It is interesting that people often have the same experience, but if you put it into context it's not really that suprising.

The whole "drawn to a bright light, seeing loved one's etc" is generally the experience we all come to expect. It's been shown on countless TV shows/movies or in books/literature and having people recount their experiences of the same thing simply reinforces this expectation. So when the time does come, it's not suprising in this "dream" state your mind grabs this "scenario" from your subconscious and plays it.

But anyway that's just my take.

garyp · #19 02-09-2009, 08:55 PM

this is a very interesting topic. I have read a few accounts from other people but not had any personally. There must be a few more IISers who have had some near death experience. looking forward to more stories.

BTW does spending a night observing in South Island NZ mid winter count as a near death experience?

Cheers

Gary

jjjnettie (Jeanette) · #20 02-09-2009, 09:09 PM

What ever happens at the very end, I don't believe that it's anything to be afraid of. Does this "spark" that makes us self conscious, does it continue beyond death? Will we finally be free to explore the cosmos as intelligent energy. (have I read too many sci fi stories?) Are the Buddhist's on the right track? Do we return to do it all over again, until we reach a stage where we can move up the spiritual path? I can't believe that when you die, you're dead. There has to be more to it. One thing I know for sure, I'm looking forward to finding out the answers.