Ed Ting's Scope Review website is what got me started a little over a year ago.
His beginners page is top notch:
http://www.scopereviews.com/begin.html
Its a couple of years old, and in US $$$, but the prices on gear have dropped a bit since he wrote that.
Why is that relevant????
In telescopes, aperture rules - the bigger the better. You'll resolve more detail, be able to see fainter things, and be able to go higher power.
Where as he recommends a 6" dob as a great beginner scope due to the price and capabilities, an 8" dob is now well within the grasp (financially) of most beginners.
One other thing to consider....
Equatorial mounts (like on both of the scopes you were looking at) are tricky to understand, setup, and use. Alt-Az mounts, like on a dob are much more intuative for a beginner.
When you are trying to setup and use a scope in the dark, simple is ALWAYS better!
G'Luck!!!